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So It's reached the point where it feels like juvenile bullying and I honestly don't know what to do. The entire planet is not going to change to accommodate you. I suspect thats why he found me attractive :-). When Im exposed to a trigger, I cant think clearly, I get super irritable, and all I want to do is get away. I have a number of co-irkers that I want to tell Nice perfume/cologne must you bathe in it? but I dont, because its merely obnoxious, and Im not a jerk. Thank you! But frankly, you shouldnt be expected to cut something you enjoy out of your life entirely just because it annoys her. She used to cry to me about how she is single and she even said to me once what is wrong with me? I used to enjoy perfume, but now find that even the slightest hint of perfume or essential oil can trigger a bad headache. Oh man every time I see someone on here who has sniffling as a trigger I feel a little guilty. Its also just impossible to guarantee and I know I for one would not want the responsibility of trying to make sure that I hadnt, say, hugged somebody who wore the offending scent, or that I hadnt had some piece of clothing I hadnt washed.also, I live in an apartment where I have to pay to do laundry, and share with others washing every single item of clothing in my house would be extremely prohibitive. I wonder if he has a front loader washing machine that is moldy and stinking up his clothes or he lets them sit for awhile before drying. YES! At this point, the coworker really needs to be talking with her boss or HR to figure something out. No one else can smell it. I inhale the mindblowing smells and sandals I also lick, but only the inner soles where the pretty feet have met the . Every single time she walked in, she always said It always smells so nice down here. And then she would call me by the wrong name. All Rights Reserved. My 20th high school reunion is coming up and some of my old friends were teasing me that we should do shots and it was just like *gag*. When you start sniffling and sneezing, you know spring has sprung. Changes in temperature or barometric pressure can also cause non-allergic rhinitis, he adds. Okay, what??? But I agree, thats not what this thread should focus on. +10000 the phrase is reasonable accomodation and op has gone above and beyond. Or heck, if OP stores the oils on or in her dresser, it may be that some of the clothing items have picked up a hint of the scent. I was thinking the same thing! Ooh, I would love to have a coworker who smelled like cookies! I hope something works for the person who wrote this! Its easy for responses that were designed to keep us safe to become a little overreactive. And then do that, because its reasonable for you not to want to be subjected to this. But it sounds like a cant win for losing situation :(. I wouldnt wish that on anyone. I had a coworker who happened to have her desk right below one of the (old) building's AC vents, and she would sniffle / cough at least several times every single hour. With my coworker, it gets bad every few weeks. At this point, Im starting to feel like youre just looking for an excuse to complain about me. There has to be a boundary of reasonable action, and I think that the OP has done pretty much everything reasonable. Many problems can lie behind that runny nose. I didnt wear any scent, but switched to unscented everything to be polite and actually reported the change to HR and my manager. Her coworkers shouldnt be expected to so drastically alter their personal habits and small joys during non-work hours. HR will work on an accommodation & there will be a doctors note provided that actually talks about the fragrance sensitivity. OK, you are unlikely to see this, but I *love* chicken. Im sensitive to even small amounts. I got wicked food poisoning from Italian wedding soup with kale. I dont have smell sensitivities, and I have a terrible sense of smell, and febreeze unscented gives me migraines. Because she is acting like a jerk. Unscented my butt. It's a little passive aggressive but can't hurt. Its a hard balance to walk. Its driving my husband insane. Its also not a popular smell for body fragrances either, which tend to be floral or fruit based. As someone who doesnt use any scented products, I can say that any smells I come across seem to linger longer for me than most people since its now such a shock to my system. Honestly, if my workplace required that I stop using scents on my body, I would have a big problem with it. Its a supervisors job to do that. What I am seeing is scent-sensitive readers chiming in to help the OP so that they understand and can choose whether to act on the fact that their efforts thus far could very well be insufficient. I really wish that was possible, but it's not. My sister had a theory that putting patchouli on the soles of her feet somehow cleansed the impurities out of her system. If you yell at them to run, theyll tell you youre crazy, rude, whatever. They figure X wasnt so hard, so X+1 shouldnt be a big deal either. Re: Constant phlegm / snorting problem - please help. I actually find the smell of patchouli very pleasant, but I do recognize that a lot of people have negative associations with it. give you the smell test. Screw this lady. However, genuine allergic reactions arent necessarily going to manifest in front of their sourceits not all doubling over in the moment. Im not sure the OP really can win with this co-worker.. Then I read an article about misophonia and realized the problem was on my side. The exaggerated sniffing definitely sounds like she is just being a pain. I was an intern and during a slow period, my supervisor told me to wipe down some shelves with some kind of cleaner. She may be grossed out for real, but the fragrance allegedly emanating from the LW isnt actually emanating, theres nothing they can do about it, and the coworker needs to lay off. And if the comments dont stop, then you can legitimately say that you have cut out all scented products and it hasnt changed anything. I can also relate to the last part about being cordial before but not anymore. Patchouli does really linger, Ive had clothes from a shop that burns incense for over a year that still smell faintly of patchouli. I would be really put out to have to start looking again. Diors Dune was once likened to the smell of mannequins, so maybe she can pull a Kim Cattrall on this co-worker and camouflage herself as a store dummy. I still cant eat that stuff. Should we go talk to (manager) or HR together and resolve this once and for all?. It can linger for a really long time and washing with unscented detergent may not do the trick. We talked to ear, nose and throat (ENT) physician Tony Reisman, MD, to find out what your sniffles mean and what you can do about them. Its not a neutral and pleasant sort of floral whatever. Im sure she thinks that the scent is gone I have no doubt about her sincerity and Im also pretty sure Id be able to tell on the Monday if shed worn patchouli that weekend. Either way, what your coworker is doing is not cool, and you have standing to talk to your manager if it continues. Granted you should tone it down at work, but I and everyone else is allowed to smell like the body wash or shampoo or hand lotion of their choosing. My MIL uses a very nicely scented oil diffuser in her house (several, actually, its a big place) and whenever my husband visits I can always smell it on him and all his clothes, even after a plane flight. All day every day. Out of curiosity, does the sound of a nose being blown bother anyone here? And I really hope thats not the cause, but if the OP is a person of color, there is a possibility that this is a contributing factor especially if the coworker is not having issues with anyone elses scent profile. People tend not to. I agree that Alison has given you some very good advice and some good conversational points to start with. This is how our body protects itself. Maybe a (different) co-worker, in case the smell is lingering around the OPs work station as mentioned below. The funny thing is my mom uses patchouli, so I associate that particular scent with mom-ly ladies. Wow! Because if it is lingering on a jacket or handbag (or even jewelry), she wont be able to smell it. After everything LW has gone through, she has more than complied. Assume that the sounds are the result of a chronic health issue. Problem is, no one around you sees the flames or senses the heat, so they have no sense of urgency to bolt for the doors. everyone think it is and I try to stop but its every minuet I sniff. Im going to go so far as to say that I think its possible that this coworker is imagining the smell is still there she associates the OP with the smell, and now when she sees her, her brain is tricking her into remembering that smell. If you feel your coworkers habits of correcting your work are somewhat resembling any form of harassment, immediately inform upper management. But seriously? But at this point, the OP *HAS* done this. I mean, what more should the OP be asked to do? Im bringing this angle up because your coworker was wearing it after a weekend and doesnt seem to wear it every day. Ive always had it and its bananas impossible to explain to anyone without coming off as a jerk when Id suddenly fume or snap a pencil under the table or run away from the dinner table. That scent in particular seems to really linger even if youre not specifically wearing it. You've just arrived back at the office from a heavy lunch with your colleague, and from the other side of the cubicle, you hear him let out a loud, obnoxious burp. I find it best to be open with people about misphonia, most people dont understand and say "just ignore it" but I just shrug and say "I cant, its called misphonia, look it up, its a real thing". My sister worked a local deli/crab cake place in high school and smelled of Old Bay to the point that shed walk in the door and strip off her shoes and clothes and not take them to her room. Nasal sprays. We got fried chicken and rode the train home together . Arrrgh. This was my second reaction (after the first, which was sympathy for OP!). At Thanksgiving, people give me a look when I say I dont like turkey very much. But you can pry my Gain laundry detergent out of my cold dead hands. But we shake it off, and the office culture is such that a person complaining about that sort of thing would be told to suck it up unless it presents a health concern. I was thinking about this, too, but I havent gotten any promotion, raise or recognition since we started working on this project. My sensitivities dont entitle me to that kind of control over another person, the LWs coworkers dont either. If the coworker is just complaining about a scent she doesnt like, I think its sufficient to just treat her comments like the ridiculousness they are. Id also be thanking Boss for talking to you. Asking a coworker to switch soaps is ridiculous. nothing seems to help, except taking a 1/2 of a 5 mg flexeral at bedtime, It calms the constant sniffiling and I can sleep. I love shoe sniffing stories, especially when it involves hot girls with stinky shoes. Find out what causes asthma, and how to take control of your symptoms. Is she hassling the other people in your office? All the advice about deep cleaning all bedding and coats and switching detergents and shampoos and the like is baffling. Im genuinely curious about this. I couldnt smell any cinnamon candy for years after. I am not moving again. Youre lovely! As such, burping and sniffing are not likely listed in your handbook. 16 12 12 comments Best Add a Comment MassiveExplosion 5 yr. ago ), just so she can say shes done everything she can. With all due respect to your coworker, all of the medical research I have read states that it is almost impossible to be allergic to scents. Now I want to go looking for a nice lemon perfume, though. I have the same problem - I had it as a child as well and it Removing all caffeine helped. Its one thing to stop wearing scents. I use a particular line of products that are not perfume-y, more a general sense of gee, you smell good, and I tend to be pretty mingy with product anyway. Im the same way about artificial fragrances and I love essential oils. About 75% of Smelly Things gives me a headache, so I have a slight aversion as well. For instance, I became a super-smeller when I was pregnant, and lots of things suddenly started to smell vile to me. I completely agree. thanks! it. The fabrics used in most work clothes are synthetic or a blend. Problem is, no one around you sees the flames or senses the heat, so they have no sense of urgency to bolt for the doors. Full stop. This isnt coworker having a legitimate problem, this is coworker targeting OP for whatever reason. "It was like ripping a plaster off.Could you tackle the sniffing in a similar way? Sorry to say, sometimes the organic, all natural, Earth friendly stuff is no match for strong or stubborn smells. It adds up a lot. This, in a nutshell, is why misophonia is so awful. Smells sink into our brain and memory and association in a way almost nothing else does. Vinegar is good at getting out the smell of smoke too. But it can also be something in the building, in the carpet, or any other thing. I dont have a huge wardrobe, so most if not all of my office-appropriate clothes have been washed since then, so Im pretty sure that there are no lingering traces hanging on. Even when I blow my nose a lot it doesn't help sometimes. He probably has a sick crush on you. :) All in all, its just frustrating when youve done everything to accommodate someone and they are still abrasive. But this sounds like a specific attack on the OP for some reason. For real I understand if people *like* the smell of Febreeze, but seriously, its not some magical odor-disapperating powder, so dont act like its automatically preferable to any other strong scent. OP, it sounds like your coworker is just a jerk. In this particular case, I think the OP has done enough and its time to bring the boss in to either shut down the rudeness or find the coworker a new place to sit. Well, only kind of. Theres no way that none of them have even one Powder Fresh or Ocean Breeze or Fresh Cotton or Freesia Delight product in their lives. It's really annoying. Let him adjust the seating plan, talk to the coworker, talk to HR, etc. I would still never buy it or order it in a bar, however. Dolores found other things to pick on, but she stopped going after me for phantom scents and basic hygiene. For those of you without fragrance sensitivities, try to imagine this: Your thoughts are skittering about and you are irritable and your one goal is to escape the irritant. Or she may simply be nuts. Washing with unscented or mildly-scented bath productsmaybe reasonable, depending sometimes the only shampoo/conditioner that works well for someones hair has an unavoidable scent and I dont think its reasonable to expect someone to figure out an entire new hair routine (which is a process that takes time and money and trial and error, not to mention bad hair days in the interim, with the concomitant hit to self-esteem that may cause) to accommodate a coworker. I had another friend that said they also became scent-sensitive when they were having chemo. Even though they say unscented many of them still have a scent. Theyve been here since February and they still smell the same I wonder what it is! ! comment kinda looks like this coworker is looking for drama. yeah, Ive always associated with stoner culture more than hippies or POC to be honest. Agreed. Thats worth adjusting a hair /skin/laundry care routine for so someone doesnt accidentally kill them or put them in the hospital. We have no HR director, the owner refuses to address this. Time to go on the offensive here. My coworker was just a bully. I cant even look at kale now, let alone consume it. My boss, his boss and my other coworkers agreed that neither of us smelled but the complaints continued. I have sniffels all the time. LOL I do admit Ive had that urge. To qualify as a hostile work environment, the conduct must be offensive not only to the employee, but also to a reasonable person in the same circumstances. For about a week, it was great! You can put on a puzzled/pitying face and rotate in comments like, Wow, thats rude, and What a strange thing to say.. Several of the ingredients they use are irritants to lungs and eyes, several others are known allergens, and some of them are linked to neurotoxicity. +100 my workplace has those cans of Febreze in the bathroom and while I get the need for them, I do get that, its still awful and headache-inducing for me when someone sprays it. Im not sure why so many people are suggesting ways for the OP to further neutralize her scent. It helps keep dye from washing out of fabric, but it can also set a stain instead of removing it. I can do that too. Get private office or moved away from said problem because I'm a good employee they don't want to lose because I can't concentrate or keep my sanity at work. Then again, here the people rocking the strong scents tend to be older and more senior in the organization. Middle ear pressure and nasopharyngeal pressure were simultaneously measured during forceful sniffing. Theres no perfume smell, it smells very natural to me. The only scent mnemonics that lemon ever hits for me are dish soap and hard candies! I literally invited HR to do spot checks of my cubicle to find the phantom spray. And a lot of it just depends on if it is normal to you. 5.3k views Reviewed >2 years ago. I think at this point, management needs to be involved. Fortunately he was in no way attached to the stuff hed been using, but if I slept in his bed I got a rash from his sheets. For instance, if you're on the phone with a customer, do not hang up on them as soon as they start cursing. Its really difficult to calmly sit with the person attached to that trigger and explain whats happening. Usually, your best bet is to start your sentences with "I" or keep the focus on yourself -- it's less accusatory. I have to agree. You might have to accept it for now, since you cant reasonably ask her not to wear her favorite perfume on dinner dates, nor can anyone else dictate her showering schedule for her. To me it really just sounds like coworker is trying to make something out of that and mocking OP with the old smelly hippie stereotype. Oh, man. She has the option to politely manage this scenario and isnt. How is 24/7 sniffling allowed in an office space without repercussions? I empathize with those who have trouble controlling their sniffles because sometimes even the best, most consistent health care cant turn off the faucets in your face, and no amount of tissues in the world will ever be enoughbut f*ck is that repeated sound awful. As someone who is very sensitive to scents, I just wanted to say to the LW how NICE it is that you put in so much effort to be un-scented! As a fragrance-sensitive person I dont want to dismiss the co-workers concern about smelling the offending patchouli. it also helps with static electricity AND acts as a fabric softener and is much cheaper than store bought fabric softener. And I find even mens deodorants to be strong enough that I can smell it when they walk by. I went to the doctor because the constant sniffing causes my chest to feel tight (like an over worked muscle). It's easy to fix. This type of preview may stop the interrupter before he or she starts. If co-worker said that the scented oils give her migraines or make her feel like shes going to vomit, I think thats a different level than just saying I dont like that scent. Someone who sits near me is forever grunting, snorting and wheezing. I think a lot of people like the stuff you put on chicken; by itself, it doesnt taste like much. Stressful couple of days. The sky doesnt have a smell unless you want to smell like pollution imo. I suffer from phantom scents (associated with seizures). Let go of the guilt. If you were my office mate, LW, and told me youd done all of this, Id be thanking you, even if I was still being triggered. If you let mgmt/HR know you want to do what you can to address your co-workers sensitivities, youll be seen as proactive and sympathetic. To be driven mad by a colleague. Yes, this. I dont think LW should have to go above and beyond and Feebreeze her office and dryclean her clothes and not take bubble baths on her *own time* and and and and. carpet? Calmly and professionally call out the patronizing person without making a scene or being dramatic by pointedly yet politely saying, "Gee, that comment sounded a bit condescending to me. Would you dig up your Mister Lincoln roses for the coworkers sake? Other possibilities include shampoo/conditioner or lotion. Your coworkers shoot you irritated looks as you clear your throat (again). I will happily concede that these people are probably right. I don't have an obstruction, so I am not really sniffing up snot or mucus. So, since theres no history of odor-complaints it sounds like Coworker found a bone to pick with LW and will exhaustively harp on any smell coming from her. First of all, if there REALLY is a smell, even a very faint one, that shes making a big deal about it, you have shown her that you are and have dealt with it and now the matter is settled. She claimed I couldnt possibly smell it because it was only a drop on each foot and was covered, she couldnt smell it at all. Also, my perfumes are kept in a closed cedar box that is separate from both my closet and my dresser. Decisions are made. Its a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease. She may have to wear one of those paper face masks. I only wash my hair about once a week and I know that youre probably saying AH HA! At least nowadays you can attend virtually if youre that sensitive. Also, the day she complained I wasnt even wearing patchouli! Using Chat for Office Communication. Its tough to diagnose on your own, Dr. Reisman says. Sometimes I get a whiff of white vinegar (we used it in the water under the hot trays) or that orange chicken sauce smell and feel grossed out. It sounds like you have misophonia. Didn't find the answer you were looking for? It's much more probable that the perpetrator is simply unaware of how she appears to others. My wife gave up chewing gum around me years ago, before I realized I was the one with the problem. And if that doesnt work, go to HR. And Im damn sure not asking that of all my friends and family. Hmm, I had no idea. As soon as you have something unprovable that isnt supposed to be questioned, bullies and jerks will latch onto it. moving from a chin touch gesture to a nose touch. So as far as I can tell, this came out of left field. Never blows his nose, or uses a tissue Its very distracting, and personally I find it disgusting. She is being a jerk. Since the boss is familiar with the situation, its really up to the boss to insist that short of a doctors order, theres nothing to be done. The exaggerated sniffing, the pointed remarks about patchouli (which definitely smells NOTHING like lemon)those arent the behaviors of someone who is genuinely trying to solve an unfortunate issue. Preempt HR. Youre going a long way to accommodate her, which is nice of you. So, cutting out caffeine completely helped a lot, but doesn't help completely. Oh! I worked with someone at OldJob who LOVED Avon products, nearly all of which set off symptoms. Ah, I see you already made my point about how other people might have conflicting allergies. Yes, when I pour some vinegar into the washer there is no vinegar smell when the wash is done. We had all worked together for over two years before this started. I was mortified when it happened. Freshly applied perfume, sure, thats reasonable to ask people not to do. Ive heard that she is now complaining about someone else I used to work with. Its tough to describe. One option would be to talk to your manager. I have this problem too. This. Cant remember what it was, maybe its something I still wear and have just gotten used to it. I happen to like scents like patchouli, but it is a strong scent, so perhaps its lingering someplace. Im super-sensitive to the smell of tobacco smoke, but this does go to show you that it can linger in unexpected places. So while your ailment might be legitimate, running from the room or suddenly grabbing your forehead when you smell someone these behaviors ARE going to seem rude and you might have to accept that and live with being known as rude. Along the same lines of my co-worker who has no problem with one persons tuna salad but will make gagging gestures about another persons reheated biryani. But I also think it can be Pavlovian, where you see the person you identify with a scent and smell it, even if theres no actual scent around you. People who dont like indie-type perfumes often just categorize them all as patchouli as a catch-all for hippie smells. Consider having a friend/family member (who doesnt live with you!) Yeah, I think shes using it more in that sense also. I dont get how it is different than a person who has to use a wheelchair or hearing aids. But what if she likes patchouli? I would switch laundry detergent, perfume, etc. And has had it since he was a child. Hmmmm food for thought. Shes never complained before now about my perfume, and Im sure she would mention if she was having health issues based on it. My mom says the same thing about Caress body wash. She pounced on that and tried to make it seem like using soap was somehow inconsiderate. I once had to use a scented detergent on my clothes because we were out of unscented. Patchouli is a very specific smell, Im sure youd know if you were using it. I think this is a good suggestion, was about to say the same. Stop using the lemon-scented body wash for a few days and see if she keeps making the comments. 10 Worst Cities for Spring Allergies. My bosses and I came up with some unique ways to handle my problem until I finally got a remote job for the same company. And of course I shower daily. Your lemony scented hair will seem like a relief, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OCEWGW/ref=psdc_166034011_t1_B000GKXYZ2, Oh this is way better! And all of her clothes, even immediately after laundering, smell exactly like her perfume, which is interesting because the detergent on its own it quite strongly scented. Stomach bug hit that night. If a colleague burps frequently after drinking soda, suggest that she consume a non-carbonated beverage. We have placed a box of tissues on her desk, they are unused. Hopefully shell decide its too embarrassing to continue on with her charade if there are no more items left for her to be offended by. Ask Fergus, Does this scarf smell offensive to you? It used to be a magical odor-disappearing spray! My conditions have all been verified by multiple doctors and specialists.). My heart rate goes up, my brain scatters, I get queasy and headache-y, etc. If you have a problem with them, buy me something different.. I am scent sensitive but not to all scents, and I have colleagues who are more sensitive than I but who can tolerate things I cant.). Its pretty frustrating to scroll through. :). 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