Nearly every driver released in recent years allows for independent loft, lie and face angle adjustments by simply adjusting the hosel adaptor. (Note: lie angles generally aren’t discussed with the Driver or woods because the sole never actually strikes the ground with these clubs). There is also an outside chance, he/she is setup incorrectly. Drill a small indentation (not right through) to hold the ball still. First off, he/she is most likely setting up too close to the golf ball thanks to the poor posture and incorrect weight distribution. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. And since hitting the ball toward your target is difficult enough in this game, it certainly doesn’t help when your golf equipment isn’t properly set up for your unique swing and ball flight characteristics. Once a golfer can set up to the golf ball with proper posture consistently, and can make a fairly consistent swing, lie angles become an important factor to consider. When It's Too Flat. I'm Zach, the founder of The DIY Golfer. If the lie angle of your iron was too upright, the toe of the clubhead is off the ground at impact. The angle in which the ball comes off the club face is called the launch angle. Little to my knowledge, this would be one of the worst adjustments that I have ever made to my golf clubs. I had a lesson the other day and the pro said I was consistently hitting it out of the toe. Toe hits can hit the road. March 09, 2019 at 03:15 PM By Don F. 0 Likes; 5 Replies; Don F Longview, TX. Please sign in to comment; Richard A . Lower ball flight. A lot of this is a result of years of experimentation and practice, and generally doesn’t comply with the “theoretical” lie angle rules. Please sign in to comment; JOHN B. JOHN B SAINT AUGUSTINE, FL. This can also cause you to hook the ball. Here is the post I released on Posture and Alignment. Put a strip of 20mm masking tape on the sole of the club and hit away. If the lie angle is too flat, the heel of the clubhead is off the ground at impact causing you to slice the ball. These are important to our discussion here because without proper posture, the lengths and lies of your golf clubs become meaningless. As a quick and easy check get yourself about 500mm square piece of plywood or masonite and paint it flat black. Definitely check lie angle. March 09, 2019 at 03:15 PM Above are the three ways to determine how your club is oriented at impact, but I do not believe that they properly determine what lie angle is optimal for your swing and body type. If he/she would just stand a bit further from the ball with proper posture, this may fix the problem entirely. If you are hitting the golf ball off the toe of your club with regularity, it is almost certain that you are making at least one of the three mistakes listed above. All rights reserved. Many golfers with similar situations to the one above will have their clubs adjusted, and instead of becoming better, they become worse. If you are in the majority, you probably don’t know what a lie angle is in golf. If you haven’t already realized, determining the correct lie angles for your game is much more complex than hitting a few golf balls off a lie board like we see in modern fittings. Thanks to reader Chuck for this enlightening article posted by Bradley Hughes from www.bradleyhughesgolf.com: FLAT LIE ANGLES - The Reason and Logic Of The Greats I know from personal experience in a question asked directly to Lee Trevino that he used clubs that were at least 3 degrees flat in lie angle from the old standard. Lie angle at address or static play angles can be influenced by a great many things. Although most golfers will not have the same lie angles throughout the set, this example illustrates how a golfer can set his lie angles to his intended swing type. Golf Ball Direction. Drop me a line or leave a comment and let me know what you're working on right now! Now position your left foot and step back with your right until your feet are wide enough for a full swing. Conversely, if the toe of the putter is down and the heel is up in the air, the tendency is to push the ball slightly to the right (for a right handed golfer). Member Login . If the lie angle of your iron was too upright, the toe of the clubhead is off the ground at impact. Before getting into any deep discussion about lie angles, one must understand how a golf club should be properly oriented. Adjust the lie if your strike is good, but your digging the heel or toe. If the lie is toe up the length may need to be adjusted. Hitting off the Toe of the Club - posted in Golf Instruction: Just some background. Factors in Lie Angle. "The lie angle is considered to be perfect for the golfer when the sole arrives at impact perfectly parallel to the ground. Thanks. As mentioned earlier, it is useless to adjust lie angles if your posture and/or swing are not functioning consistently and properly. You may, however, want to check the lie angle but this must be done by hitting balls not looking at how the club sits on the ground at address. After impact, the line should be transferred onto the club face. A flat lie angle means that the angle between the shaft and the ground is smaller, making the club shaft more flat as compared with the ground. I hit a ball, and looked at the tape, and there was a mark near the toe of the club. Loft & Lie. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. I am going to have the lie adjusted and was wondering if this will help with the toe hits? You get tight, you get tensed, you get a bit agitated, you start to pull your arms and as you hit the golf ball and it instinctively pulls the club in, slides the ball off the toe side and then you get out weak to the right flight. Furthermore, because the release of the club will have more time to proceed the club may meet the ball in a closed clubface position which will tend to send the ball left of the target slightly , at least initially. The dynamic lie test simple and allows you to hit balls from the grass. The opposite is true. At The DIY Golfer, my mission is to make golfers more consistent in just a few hours a week through advanced practice strategies and timeless, first-principle golf instruction. Most average golfers struggle finding the center of the clubface consistently, and are often accustomed to hitting the ball everywhere but on the center of the face. SET UP ​ Stick an alignment rod in the ground about a clubhead’s width outside the target line and a …