Share Compare Wishlist Warning WARNING ADVERTENCIA Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto The pins that hold the ejector, return spring and disconnect got changed a little so that the back straps can be accepted. Much better accuracy and a little more punch. During all that I also got a degree in law enforcement and went through two different police academies. As you've gathered so far, the differences between Glock Gen 4 vs Glock Gen 3 are moderate. The dual recoil spring on the Gen 4 weighs in also. Im trying to find out if the Gen 3s have the same outer protective coating as the Gen 4s? Good luck, have fun shooting, and stay safe. Id be surprised if they arent already hard at work on just that. So thats why the G36, essentially the orphan of the Glock world, can still put a smile on my face. Have fun with it. The attempt at making a concealed carry .45 ACP pistol was honorable on GLOCKs part. The Gen 4 isnt any better. 2. Aside from the words stamped on its side, take a look at the business end of the muzzle. I found in high humidity, it was a little slippery in my hands, the cure for that was a pachmayr grip sleeve, problem solved. One of the ones Ive admired is Dale Honeycutt near Houston. Got rid of the 36 in some long forgotten gun deal. I spoke to a Glock rep about this at SHOT. The gun fired everything I put in it. You wont be sorry if you go with a G36, but you may be slightly disappointed upon seeing what else is out there. If you have very small hands youll definitely like the Gen 4 better. so get this amazing Red Puffer Vest which is a favorite of all girls and it is the most-rated and most selling outfit in our store, shop now because the stock is limited. The frames are easy to get on gun broker. The G36 is the wrong answer. He said if I couldnt get it done with 7 rds I probably couldnt do it at all. Thanks for the info Ben..and the rest of you guys! Its going to come down to personal choice and what you can find. Why shouldn't our handguns be offered the same way? They ended up with a what I can only describe as a bulky, thick chunk of steel and polymer that had all the ergonomic properties of a brick. Im just a civilian so I hope and pray that I will never be in a self defense situation where I need more than 1 mag.Most self defense situations Ive seen or heard about were pretty close quarters, not clear across the room(although I see a lot of that in the movies). Havent shot the G36 but own a XDS and shot a buds Shield. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Its a little bit of pain but worth the $100 if they have the one you want. All Gen4 pistols have improved Trigger Spring hook attachment points on the Trigger Mechanism Housing and the Trigger with Trigger Bar that reduce hook failure (the most common part that breaks in pre-Gen5 pistols). Im not the strongest person, but not a wimp either, but I can actually squeeze hard enough to make the grip flex on the Gen 4. That's a plus if the standard pistol doesn't have the best fit out of the gate. In knowing which generation of Glock you have you can narrow down when it was made or at least when Glock started making them. But unlike RTF versions with grips that had needle-like checkering, Gen 4 uses flat-cone-like . Both barrels measure 4.48 in. Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. Both are surprisingly shootable and accurate. Accuracy * * On the surface, the striker fired Glock design has remained visually the same. And stop comparing it to a damned 9mm, it is not! I spoke to a Glock rep about this at SHOT. Umarex Glock 17 Gen3 vs Gen4. Some just shoot what they brought. Guns like the Smith & Wesson M&P45 Shield(which was introduced have superior ergonomics, grip texture, and magazine capacity for equal size. The G26 offered a shorter handle with a two finger grip. Have you got nothing better to do than spam a gun blog? I fired the G36 over my Oehler 35P chronograph at a distance of five feet from the muzzle. not for the Camp Perry matches. The first thing I thought getting it out of the box was, WHAT is this dumb mag basepad for ? I just prefer a 5 inch barrel for 45 acp to get max performance. Right now they are still on Glocks web site. The Blue label program is a great service from Glock. Right before the introduction of the Glock Generation 4 guns, a limited edition of Gen 3 pistols was made - called the RTF2 or "Rough Textured Finish" - with a few different bits. I raised my arms and they patted me down. And who doesn't like to change their guns up just a bit to fit their own style? Why is that a selling point you may ask? On the other hand, some people just have to have the latest thing on the market, and that's okay too. I really dont care for the way the grip feels to me on the 19 & 23. The G36 was my first gun. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Ive loved shooting since the first time I pulled a trigger at age 8. Not ready to part after 12 years. Do you have one Jeff? Along with all the standard models such as the Glock 19 Gen 4, the fourth generation of Glock pistols also introduced the Glock 43. Spam much? The limited capacity is another issue with the pistol. It does not make a difference in my ability to conceal it. The gun packs a full 10 rounds in the standard magazine and 12 rounds in an extended magazine. Cheers! He resides in the great Inland Northwest, with his wife and child. My Gen 4 broke after exactly 500 rounds. That said, those surface changes may make a difference to you. The smaller trigger housing fits in the smaller Glock 19 4th Generation frame. I dont think so, I have the shield 45 and I do like it, But the Glock 36 fits my hand better. The first couple emptied mags reminded me why I liked this gun so much years ago, and it really comes down to one unique feature, the grip shape. Thanks Daric! An interesting note is that they were introduced in a Euro-centric world where small bore pistols were the most common in the hands of police and military, 9mm chief among them. Now go practice. Are you trying to act like its a qualifier in order to have an opinion? That will tell you which to get. Just like the gun better. 3x 17, 19, 4x 19 gen4, 19 gen5, 20, 21, 22, 26, 30, 36, 40, 42, 43. no end in sight. for me the G19 Gen3 is the best i have ever owned or shot. Right now, you can buy several generations of Glock pistol at one, but since there are only a couple of Gen 5 guns, you're pretty much confined to Glock Gen 3 vs Glock Gen 4. The age of wood and steel is far from over, but the age of plastic has certainly been in full swing for some time now and lots of gun owners have grown to like (or at least appreciate) polymer pistols. Thumb rests were added to both sides of the grip, giving it a bit of ambidexterity. Even if it's beat up, you can still rebuild it by replacing all the internal parts and get years of use out of it. I shoot it regulary and have qualified with it the last two times my ccw was up for renewal. Since its somewhat unique in the Glock world, aftermarket support is more limited than other models. What did you have to do to get your trigger weight that far down? If you are looking for beauty this aint it. After that the Glock 36 is just fine. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. Im with you, for some reason I just keep going back to the Gen 3. Glock also changed the extractor so that it would stick out when the gun was loaded, thereby acting as a loaded chamber indicator. The bangs just stop a lot sooner. My local Glock dealer is the local Glock store for the Blue label/tag program that provides GLOCK products at a lower price for retired military, police officers, foremen, etc. Good stuff been using my Glocks for years and good to see a site for people to feel comfortable to get info they need without ot coming from a know it all attitude. I do carry a full size 1911 during the cooler months but the G36 and the G26 are better for me during the warmer months. Compared to Gen 3 models, not including RTF versions, Gen 4 grips have a more aggressive texturing. For example, Id love to fit it with a Tango Down slide stop, but no hope there. With the mag removed, you only have a two-finger grip on it and your hand becomes the magwell in the event of a reload. The answer, like most gun questions, is that it depends. Save Share. I love my G30, its basically all the goodness of a G21 but shrunk down to G19 size. Glock did change the design of the ejector in the Glock 19 4th Generation handgun. Stuffed it full of Barnes 230 gr copper hollowpoints. I found that a snubbie is a real challenge for meeven at just 7 yards. At least not unmanageable. Glock started including 3 magazines instead of the 2 that came with the previous generations. The officers ACP was similar in size and shot rings around the 36 for me. Glock does not sell them to the consumer market; they are only sold to police departments and federal agencies. We dont belittle people and their thoughts here. See, the Glock 19 Gen 4 magazines are notched on both sides to allow for the ambidextrous mag release. They were introduced when polymer was still a relatively new material in the gun world and as a result they came out looking strange by comparison to what was standard at the time. This time, Glock Gen 4 pistols use a flat-cone-like type of checkering which provides similar levels of grip traction while being more comfortable to grab on to and easier on the hands when. My advice to GLOCK not that theyve asked is to issue an updated variant of this concept in the way of the G43 or the new G43X. Well, if you already own a Glock Gen 3 and have a favorite holster for it you're in luck. difference at? I just bought my 1st Glock 26 Gen 3. Myself being a first time buyer, which gen 3 would be good to defend your family as well as protect yourself? Excellent article. The gun hides well for me under winter clothing and a Hawaiian shirt ans shorts for summer. It's a small gun, with its overall length at 6.97 inches, and the slide is nearly the same length as the entire gun at 6.77 inches. In a short time, the Glock name spread across the ocean into America. And yeah, Ive had my pinky bitten on quick mag changes but not shooting. The 36 is reliable and accurate enough for self defense. Thanks for sharing your insights Ben! Due to the ambidextrous mag release found on the Glock Gen 4, its magazines are notched on both sides. There I got to teach and train with the US Army and others. The Gen 4 I can just squeeze the entire grip with a shooting grip and feel it flex. I made a video from the side view and there is hardly any recoil shooting magtech hard baller range ammo. I spent all of 2008 in Iraq again as a private contractor defending a base. For accessories right now there is more stuff for the Gen 3. I like it, its my bug to my full size real steel double stack 1911 that I also have no trouble concealing except when its damm hot and I switch to a .380 Acp for short wearing weather. I use to carry a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum in service for a PD. On paper the pistol sounds more compact than it is in practice. The Gen 4s are not legal in all 50 states. Would be in a world of hurt against a brown bear [a friend from Alaska said I should just shoot myself and get it over with] but other than that scenario, could handle pretty much anything else the Rockies could throw at me, the grip is too big, front to back? As a GLOCK owner, we want to make sure you have all the tools to protect your GLOCK pistol, and get the most out of it. Capacity? On top of that, there have been changes to the line between full generations, for instance the glock 26 is available in a generation 2.5. This is a welcome upgrade to the Glock 19 Generation 3 for those southpaws out there. Either one will work the same. Everything else is just not worth talking about. Born in southeastern Washington State, Sam Hoober graduated in 2011 from Eastern Washington University. Additionally, a Glock's ejector is usually not a point of failure unless you are one of those lucky people able to run huge numbers of rounds. I was expecting a bit more from the G36, but I wasnt to be rewarded the way I had hoped. My Glock 19 Gen 3 is my everyday carry gun. Buffalo Bore 255gr +P Outdoorsman875fps, 3.5 Some Gen 3 models are available in a factory threaded barrel version (to support compensators and . I broke the trigger (story here), more wore it out, I think. liked it. The gun was a departure from the high-capacities of their prior models and featured a new type of magazine. Like virtually all GLOCK pistols, its dependable and will go bang when needed. And no I did not use the laser to qualify. The grip is a little different. So, this is one of these things that just because you can do it, why would you do it? I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I bought too much ammo. and walked away. Magazine capacity is not a big issue for me, as the gun is very very accurate and I can reload a gun rather quickly. For ten dollars you could change the connector with a gen 3 connector or most people file the bump off. You have entered an incorrect email address! I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I brought too much ammo. and walked away. Again, if GLOCK were to come out and combine the engineering of the G43 and adapt it to the .45 ACP, including addressing the grip length on the G36, they would have a winner. Mine gave me blood blisters every time I did speed mag changes. The owner never got Glock Knuckle for him. Not fun. Buy a wolf gunsprings Glock competition trigger pack ($10) and install 2 of the 3 springs. Have you noticed reduced recoil, faster follow up shots, etc with your 19? G20 Gen 3 SF vs. Gen 4. GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. In this profile, there is no difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4. Had a G30S. I just didnt want to rebuild the entire thing, but will sooner or later. Heck no. I walked in the place with two knives and a .45. But what I really want is a 48 style in 45acp. The Glock 19 is arguably the perfect combination between a concealed carry and a standard service weapon. The heavier spring is designed specifically to not only manage recoil but to minimize abuse to the frame of the gun. Magazine Design The Gen-4 and Gen-5 have the same mag release function as their predecessor, the Gen-3. Luckily, the Gen 3 Glock is still in production and is still a fan favorite. If your Gen 4 mag release is still configured for a right-hand shooter, that means the mag release button is on the left side, then either magazine will work. So until laws change, I think Glock will continue to produce them. The Gen 4 is 0.17 oz lighter than the Gen 3 (according to Glocks web site). Its mechanically sound as I had not a single issue with it as far as reliability is concerned, but it just wasnt an enjoyable gun to shoot. It is mine also. Every one of your responses reinforces my opinion. .45 GAP get a G39 which is exactly the size of a G26/27, not enough mag capacity? I love Glocks and still the Glock 36 was one of my least favorite pistols Ive ever shot. Start browsing our selection of, AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Upper Receiver Parts, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Lower Receiver Parts, Shop All Handgun Barrels & Muzzle Devices, Shop All Bipods / Monopods & Accessories. Semper Fi! Cool Mike! But there will always be parts for the Gen 3 and I think the guns will be made for a long time. Sometimes I forget I have it on me. If you want a Glock, just buy one. Glock set the standard and most other striker fired guns are following glock example. While completely and utterly late to the single-stack subcompact 9mm party, it still became one of their most popular pistols to date. Would I rather have a 9mm with a zillion round magazine to spray and pray the neighborhood? And its a.45. I just never found the grips comfortable in my hand in the different iterations. The high recoil of most of the ammo coupled with the snappy slide movement made rapid shots, even at close range, difficult at best. The GLOCK single stack magazine allows for a slim frame and a slide with reduced width. The Glock Generation 3 guns are very basic, in that they give you everything you need and nothing you don't. The first and most noticeable issue is the grip which, while narrow(er), is exceedingly thick from front to back. Thanks for the info Ben. I shoot it frequently and carry it often. Hornady American Gunner 185gr JHP-848fps, 3.0 You cannot take a Gen 4 upper and place it on a Gen 3 or earlier lower. Its now my mission and purpose in life. A lot of people that customize the Gen 3 put an extended magazine release on their guns, so Glock just did it for them. Youre welcome Jeff. I can drive nails with it at the range. This doesn't bother me really, but it does feel like it opens my grip just a little bit. I bought a G36 early on, thinking it would be a lighter replacement for my Colt Officers .45. The GMBS, as it were, is swappable backstrap panels to customize the fit of the pistol to the shooter. His varied interests and hobbies include camping, fishing, hunting, and spending time at the gun range as often as possible. This serves to center the trigger bar on the firing pin safety, which is one of the three parts of the Glock safe-fire action. Their products have evolved through modifications that let their handguns be recognized by generation. They made the magazine release button a little bigger and made it swappable for left-handed users. Now that they have the G43X and G48, they may be able to adapt it to 40, which I would prefer to a 36. They didnt find anything and passed me through. The Gen 4 is the first of the Glock 19 Generations to use a larger, dual-recoil spring guide rod. A dual recoil spring can slightly change the recoil impulse, but only so much. An additional cross pin was added above the trigger guard pin, acting as a fence for the barrel link when the gun recoils. As are you. So again, this is an exclusive but necessary item in the list of Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades. Ive added +1 magazine baseplates to the mags, which also gave me a better grip. As far as its size I can put the gun & holster in the jacket pocket of my dickies jacket without it hanging out. However, there's just enough of a difference that it could definitely tilt you to one side or another if deciding between a Glock Gen 3 vs Glock Gen 4 pistol. Thank you Ben for a very informative article. Now I have about 1500 rounds through it. Hook and Loop Holsters Using Velcro Brand Fasteners, Glock 26 vs 43 | Which Baby Glock Is Best? The Gen 4, on the other hand, has several sizes of backstrap that can be easily swapped in for a better fit. The Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades are subtle, yet leap out at the same time. All in the black 4-5 inch circle. Hot on the heels of the announcement of the new single-stack slimline G43X and G48, both of which are skinny little 9mms, I am going to take the time to do a rewind and look at GLOCKs first attempt at the single-stack slimline game: the .45 ACP GLOCK 36. I remember shooting a 36 and being amazed at how much worse it felt than a G19. The number one reason is the better trigger. I got a new part and spring free from Glock. You mentioned your Gen 4 had issues this year resulting in carrying your Gen 3. Im not use guns but my partner surely does! It either fits you or it doesn't and there's not much to help it if that's the case short of an aftermarket frame. The connector on the Gen 4 lies inside the trigger housing and has a modified angle in order to preserve the trigger pull weight of the Gen 3. You can get a gun for about $100 cheaper. The .45 round, be it .45 Colt, .45-70, or .45 ACP, has always been synonymous with American exceptionalism and the spirit of adventure. With a magazine inserted, Glock 36 and Shield 45 clock in within 5 grams of each other. The one upgrade in the Glock 19 Gen 3 vs Gen 4 whirlwind is the lowly, but vital, magazine. Sounds like this Chris guy is a real stud. Receive exclusive deals, new product announcements and need to know information. As you've gathered so far, the differences between Glock Gen 4 vs Glock Gen 3 are moderate. However, changes are easily identified when you know what you're looking for. Glock is still producing its Gen 3 series Glocks which would seem odd to most as it has released two generations since Generation 3. I initially drank the koolaide and was a fan boy but not anymore. At present, generation three and four Glocks are readily available in the United States for new purchase. That and ruger pistols and revolvers are what I have in the stable. At the moment, Glock is still selling the Glock Gen 3 pistols as well as Gen 4 and Gen 5. Well, better is very, very relative. Apologies, southpaws. The G36 is a very accurate and reliable pistol, and a Great CCW weapon. And a bonus its easier to keep my thumb off the side stop, so the slide always locks back after the last round. Even a compact 1911 with equal capacity has flush-fitting magazines. Not long after, Umarex released the Glock 19 non-blowback followed by the Glock 17 Gen 3. Now its my back up gun. Also, you can't overlook the legendary Glock reliability. When you see the larger hole obviously there beneath the barrel, this isn't much of a leap. Some people took a liking to it, as 13+1 rounds of .45 ACP is enough to overlook some minor issues. No, the Shield 2.0 45 is not lighter it just has a shorter Bbl. Therein lies some of the problems that the Gen 4 9mms had. The other reason is that I am sure there is a wear out point for a Glock and my Gen 3 has to be pushing it. Gen 4 has a bump on the connector to ride inside the slide. A 19 is a shot in the dark and an easy place to start. This larger, dual-recoil spring guide rod was employed to accommodate the heavier recoil of the larger rounds available now. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Trigger pull weight is reduced to 2lbs 15oz when paired with the M*CARBO Glock Gen 3-4 Spring Kit. That would be another reason to have the versatility of changing the size of the handgrips. I am looking at a Glock for in car protection and periodic concealed carry. I still carry my Gen 3, but the 4 has become a safe queen. Now I want to bring that experience and my joy of teaching to others. 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