They also found a 20-gauge shotgun that belonged to Jordan. Now that you all know. )YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/MileHigherPWebsite: http://milehigherpodcast.com/Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/milehigherpodcastiTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/3HMLJYYTuneIn: http://tun.in/piSACStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mileGoogle Play: https://play.google.com/music/m/I3jeiINSTAGRAM FOR UPDATES: MileHigherPodcast Twitter: @MileHigherPodWatch my documentary, apartment 801: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZZSPREQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://forms.gle/QPuMGXTv65mD6ZCW6 Form for people directly related/ close to the victim: https://forms.gle/ysjFLesK7oauoKrh6Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, its free! He said he is adamant his daughter learns to hit back if someone hits her first. And I was in there. She was clutching her blanket and insisting that her mother was gone. Brown was convicted of shooting & killing his soon-to-be stepmother & her unborn child in 2009. Once the Pennsylvania Superior Court ruled that this violated Browns constitutional rights, the presiding judge recused himself from the case, and a new judge, John W. Hodge, ruled that Brown be tried as a juvenile. He was 20 years old. This station is part of Cox Media Group Television. 'This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen!' Hodge also determined that the case should not be open to the public or news media. WAMPUM, Pa. -- Jordan Brown was 11 years old when he was arrested and initially charged as an adult for the murder of his pregnant, soon-to-be stepmother. During his incarceration, Jordan taught himself to play guitar and said he became a pretty good basketball player. By using this website, you accept the terms of our Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy, and understand your options regarding Ad Choices. "They played a big [role] in, like, keeping my head straight," he said. So we (hurried) up and went out the back door and ran down the driveway. "Kind of bittersweet, so to speak. 'If you get hit, and someone keeps hitting you and hitting you, what do you do? You've, you know, ruined his name in essence. "There is not a trooper on scene that day that has lost one second of sleep over this case.". Watch this report from Action News at Noon on October 19, 2018. Born on August 12, 1997, Jordan Brown and his father, Chris Brown, were a close duo who spent most of their weekends hunting in the nearby woods. I'd, like, lose myself in the book. "And I just remember looking at him thinking, 'How can this kid have any more hope?'". Then, they drive off in the victim's vehicle. July 1, 2020 / 1:09 PM "You took an 11-year-old's childhood away from him. There was nothing," says Wright. "There's a murderer walking amongst us that has been overlooked," Chris Brown said. I'm not going to be mad at you. Glue ear is when the empty middle part of the ear canal fills up with fluid whichcan cause temporary hearing loss, according to the NHS. "They played a big (role) in, like, keeping my head straight," he said. But still, that side of it, that suffering from the loss and not having any answers, knowing he was falsely accused and the route the prosecutor and investigators took on this, the inadequate investigation. "Jordan Brown was a fifth-grader in February 2009 when Pennsylvania police arrived to take him away as the sole suspect in the shotgun slaying of his dad's pregnant fiance, Kenzie Houk. Instead, they relied on the statement of a 7-year-old girl who changed her story. Ola and James Jordan have spoken out about their daughter's health troubles after she struggled to hear properly. And last year the couple were concerned after Ella battled a chronic ear infection, leading her to undergo a series of tests. And we just sat on the couch in the living room waiting and then Kenzie told us to go because the bus is coming and we're going to be late. What happened and the way it happened, is B.S., he told ABC. "It's kind of a bittersweet feeling, you know. My wife is so much in shock I think Im gonna have to take her to the hospital. Jordan Anthony Brown, an 11-year-old charged for the murder of Kenzie Marie Houk in Wampum, PA, is shown in this photo provided by the Lawence County Prison in New Castle, PA. Brown is the son of Houk's boyfriend. It was a whole different world. 2023 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. Throughout Jordan Brown's stay in detention in Erie, his father continued to ask him whether he'd killed Houk. I didn't care. "[I] went downstairs, got my clothes, went in the bathroom [and] got dressed. In this conversation. Despite the investigators' belief that Jenessa statements to police were compelling and credible, prosecutors made the decision not to introduce them at the trial, nor did she testify. Finally, it felt like a big weight had been lifted off of me. Jordan Brown said he has "mixed feelings" about what happened to him. "I'm innocent. Published on January 13, 2022 01:10 PM. for $40 Million, Ga. Dad Who 'Sexted' with Women as Young Son Died in Hot Car Gets Murder Conviction Overturned, A Boy, 12, Was Coerced into Falsely Confessing to a Murder and the Real Killer Is Still Out There, Barry Morphew Speaks Out After Charges Were Dropped in Wife Suzanne's Death: 'Want Her to Be Found', Juror Who Helped Convict Scott Peterson Is Accused of Hiding Bias Against Him, Paving Killer's Path to Retrial, N.J. Supreme Court Overturns Conviction of Single Mother Accused of Killing 5-Year-Old Son in 1991, 'I Get to Finally Go Home': Ga. Man Exonerated of Taco Bell Murder After Serving 23 Years in Prison, Plastic Surgeon Confesses to Murdering Wife, Throwing Body from Plane Decades After Conviction, Six Years After Being Charged with Murder at Age 11, Jordan Brown May Get New Trial, Scott Peterson's Sister-in-Law Claims New Evidence Proves He's Innocent of Killing His Pregnant Wife, Cosby Survivor Andrea Constand 'Disappointed' by His Overturned Sexual Assault Conviction, Trial Begins for Boy, 11, Charged with Shotgun Murder, the shotgun slaying of his dads pregnant fiance. Browns father and attorneys spoke during a news conference Monday. And with the focus on his son's legal plight, Chris Brown said his grief for the loss of his fiance and their unborn baby had to take a back seat. Not on your life. When asked what message he had for the state police troopers who'd arrested his son, Chris Brown said, "'Shame on you,' is probably the most polite way to put it.". "I was happy. "They told me that (she and) the baby were gone, and I remember collapsing in the yard," Chris Brown told ABC News' Juju Chang. In other words, it messes with the investigators initial timeline, which now does not hold much sway anyway as Jordan was cleared and can never be re-tried. "I'll be honest with you, I suffer from PTSD [post-traumatic stress disorder] over this," Chris Brown said. "You're a kid. She wrote: 'So Ella had the most amazing birthday party today with all her friends and family - thank you so much for everyone pulling together to create such an amazing day. At 3:30 a.m. the next day, the grieving father and son were awakened by police pounding at the door. The 11-year-old's photo made it to the cover of a London newspaper. 20/20 TONIGHT: Jordan Brown speaks out | American Broadcasting Company | After being detained at age 11 for a murder he says he didn't commit, now 21-year-old Jordan Brown speaks out for the first time to Juju Chang TONIGHT on. ", Mom of 2, stabbed 8 times, is making most of second chance at life, Couple had 'no respect' dumping close to a church, ABC13 viewer says, Man says Travis Scott punched him in face at Midtown nightclub. 20/20 airs Friday (10 p.m. Investigators on the case tell ABC News, in that rural area of Pennsylvania, "It's fairly common, most - especially young males - would grow up with learning to shoot firearms.". M ichael Jordan, widely considered the greatest basketball player in NBA history and the lone African-American majority owner of a franchise, has decided to speak out on the country's growing racial and social unrest. "(He) never changed his story. And I was in there. You can find out more and change our default settings with Cookies Settings. Attorney wants case movedDefense attorney Dennis Elisco has said he plans to ask a judge to move the case to juvenile court and to have the boy released on bail to his father. The daily journey, however, wreaked havoc on his finances, Chris Brown said. I'm never not going to be here every day,'" Chris Brown said. / CBS Pittsburgh. I'm your dad. Still, a juvenile court judge found Jordan Brown, now 14, delinquent in the case. When I left for court, and that was only every couple of months, that was the only time I would be able to actually see outside, he recalls. They presented a petition, signed by 4,000 people, that argued trying Jordan as an adult would violate his fifth and sixth amendment rights. 'We're not happy about it:' Jordan Brown, allegedly a killer at 11, released 42,634 views Jun 14, 2016 173 Dislike Share Save WTAE-TV Pittsburgh 57K subscribers The teenager who was accused of. https://bit.ly/2IJL4. Overwhelmed with joy," said Chris Brown. "I lost it.". He said that getting ready for school that day in February 2009 was "just a normal morning. Soon after, one of the tree-trimming workers spotted Houk's other daughter, 4-year-old Adalynn, in the doorway, sobbing and saying her mother was dead. I'm never not going to be your dad. He has said the boy hasn't confessed to the shooting and he doubts the physical evidence will support police's claim that the boy killed Houk with one shot to the back of her head. "They told me that [she and] the baby were gone, and I remember collapsing in the yard," Chris Brown told ABC News' Juju Chang. His conviction was overturned. Oscar Cainer tells all. 2023 Cox Media Group. Jordan Brown, now 21, recalls his arrest at age 11 for murder. "I'll be honest with you, I suffer from PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) over this," Chris Brown said. However, some officials claim that after so many years, Adalynns report may not be credible. Shes bawling and crying., Were going through hell, he said. He said he needed to drive four hours every day to visit Jordan Brown because "he's my son. And with the focus on his son's legal plight, Chris Brown said his grief for the loss of his fiance and their unborn baby had to take a back seat. And I would assume every trooper who investigated that case feels the same way. This included her new fianc, Chris Brown, his son, Jordan Brown, and her two daughters, Jenessa and Adalynn Houk. (AP Photo/Lawence County Prison via Beaver County Times. Now 21, Brown, who spent more than. ", "My sister Jenessa woke me up," Jordan Brown said. While awaiting trial, Jordan Brown was housed for three years at the Edmund L. Thomas Adolescent Center in Erie County, Pennsylvania. If Adalynns account is considered authentic, Kenzie died a long time after Jordan, her then-11-year-old suspected and later acquitted killer, was last at home. The blue blanket, which has a quarter-sized hole that appeared to be singed from a shotgun blast, supports a claim that the crime was premeditated, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said. Chris said Jordan plans on living life like any normal 20 year old. "It cost me my job, and what money that I had coming in went into the gas tank and went into things that he needed," Chris Brown said. James added that other people could rely on finding an adult in similar situations but that 'if someone hits my child, she can hit them straight back'. Jordans conviction was overturned on July 18 in a unanimous 5-0 decision. But investigators believed the strongest piece of circumstantial evidence came from Jenessa. But now I'm kind of, like, I go back and forth sometimes, I think," he said. But still, that side of it, that suffering from the loss and not having any answers, knowing he was falsely accused and the route the prosecutor and investigators took on this, the inadequate investigation. After his arrest, Amnesty International came forward to oppose Jordan being tried as an adult. With the ruling this summer, Houks murder remains unsolved an agony that appears to have fractured two families that were, at one time, about to merge. "Absolutely no evidence, direct or circumstantial, indicating that Jordan Brown committed this crime. That way I know what was trying to be said, and then that's how I read," he said. Inside the Browns' farmhouse, police found handguns, rifles, and several rounds of ammunition. Does my fairy godmother ever turn up with a magic wand? Pour en savoir plus sur notre utilisation de vos informations, veuillez consulter notre Politique relative la vie prive et notre Politique en matire de cookies. 'They don't want to put grommets in at the moment so they're going to check her again in about three months and see how it is. [We] went to school.". That's, like, the only thing I really want people to know.". Who is Jordan Brown? Police also said they found a 20-gauge shotgun shell casing in pristine condition next to the family's driveway and found some evidence of gunshot residue on Jordan's clothing. It comes after Ella celebrated her third birthday at the weekend, with Ola taking to Instagram to share a picture from the party. IE 11 is not supported. And then they took me straight to the county jail," Jordan Brown said. At the age of 4, the latter discovered her mother's remains. Retired Pennsylvania State Police Trooper Bobby McGraw, one of the investigators on the case, said he is still confident that Jordan Brown committed the murders. Jordan Browns father speaks out after sons murder conviction overturned, Following a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision to overturn the murder conviction of Jordan Brown, Teen convicted of killing father's fiance, unborn child released from juvenile detention, Woman impaled by unattended beach umbrella, police say, 28 hurt after 2 buses involved in crash in downtown Pittsburgh, Toronto shooting: 2 killed, suspect dead after gunman shoots 14 in Greektown, police say, VIDEO: Man drowns saving children from rip current, Man dead after shooting in Arlington Heights, Explosive found in bag at Pennsylvania airport, man arrested, 3 people dead after 2 separate shootings in McKeesport; scenes not connected, police say, New evidence presented in court against 14-year-old accused of killing teen in Carrick, Local woman living with cancer for ten years hopes journey will help educate, advocate. This past July, Browns conviction was overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. A 5-0 ruling Wednesday reversed the finding by a juvenile court judge that Brown was guilty of first-degree murder and homicide of an unborn child. Powered by WordPress.com VIP. They found that the evidence was consistent with the theory that either Jordan was responsible or that someone else was to blame, but that his guilt was not clear. I used to hate it. It come after James spoke out about his strong stance on how Ella defends herself against others in the world. Jordan Brown was a fifth-grader in February 2009 when Pennsylvania police arrived to take him away as the sole suspect in the shotgun slaying of his dads pregnant fiance, Kenzie Houk. On February 20, 2009, the 8-month pregnant mother of two was shot in the back of her head while sleeping in the Pennsylvania home she shared with her family. "Half of his life he has spent in this system to get to this final day today," Chris Brown, Jordan's father, said Monday. Brown is being held at the Lawrence County Jail, where jail officials said they don't have adequate accommodations for someone that young. Everybody always feels so sorry for poor little Cinderella, but what about me? A shell from the gun was found on the path that Brown walked to get to his school bus each morning. But when she was re-interviewed, police say she had a startling recollection. Chris Brown said. Subscribe & Hit That Bell So You Don't Miss A Video! "It used to bother me all the time. While awaiting trial, Jordan Brown was housed for three years at the Edmund L. Thomas Adolescent Center, a juvenile detention facility in Erie County, Pennsylvania. "Because the juvenile system only has jurisdiction until he's 21, the last thing I want is a 21-year-old who's going to be out on the streets and willing to kill you," Bongivengo said. Adalynn Houk, along with her elder sister, Jenessa Houk, was delighted to have moved in with their mothers boyfriend and his son at their Wampum farmhouse almost five months before that harrowing day. "A judge finding a juvenile delinquent is effectively a guilty verdict. And then they took me straight to the county jail," Jordan Brown said. Houk was engaged to be married to his father, Chris Brown, and 8 and 1/2 months pregnant. Even all the adults loved it.'. Elisco didn't return calls for comment Monday. In 2009, Jordan Brown was charged with murdering 26-year-old Kenzie Houk as she slept at their home in Wampum, Pennsylvania. Chris Brown said he drove every day, 230 miles round trip, to see his son in detention. Police also said they found a 20-gauge shotgun shell casing in pristine condition next to the family's driveway and found some evidence of gunshot residue on Jordan's clothing. After he was arrested and charged with the murders of both Kenzie Houk and her unborn child, Jordan Brown was held at the Lawrence County Jail. Police said Jordan Brown walked into her bedroom, shot his future stepmother with his youth hunting shotgun and then boarded the bus for his elementary school. While waiting for Jordan to leave the house with her, she told them she heard a boom and identified it to police as the sound of a gun. Suffering from the loss and not having any answers. Jordan Brown, who is attending college and studying computer science, is determined to leave his past behind and prepare for brighter days ahead. "I can remember just looking at Jordan and feeling like we had failed him. The loss of her mother continues to hang over her head like a dark cloud and affect her, but time is gradually healing all wounds, helping her move on with her life in the most productive ways possible. Brown was exonerated by the Supreme Court in . Jordans father, Chris, did not publicly speak about the case until July 2018, when the conviction was overturned. Jordan was 11 at the time of the deaths. I just want to graduate college, you know, get a job in my major and, I don't know, just be successful," Jordan Brown said. Tonight, Jordan Brown, 21, will speak publicly for the first time about being charged with the double-homicide of his father's fiancee and their unborn child when he was just 11. He told Hello! Sawyer sat down for exclusive interviews with Jennifer Turpin and her sister, Jordan, whose dramatic escape and 911 call in January 2018 led to the rescue of her and her 12 siblings -- exposing . He said he needed to drive four hours every day to visit Jordan Brown because "he's my son. It's been a nightmare for nine-and-a-half years." The shooting of Kanzie Marie Houk, 26, and her unborn child, occurred on the morning of February 20, 2009. Now 21, Brown, who spent more than seven years in custody, is focused on his future since his murder conviction was overturned just this summer. Lawrence County Prison/Beaver County Times/AP, File, Man Wrongfully Convicted of Killing Malcolm X Is Suing N.Y.C. An investigator on the case, since retired, told ABC he was sure of Jordans guilt. "The headline simply read the world's youngest monster. Read on to learn more about Browns case. Happy family:It comes after Ella celebrated her third birthday at the weekend, with Ola taking to Instagram to share a picture from the party. WAMPUM, Pa. -- Jordan Brown was 11 years old when he was arrested and initially charged as an adult for the murder of his pregnant, soon-to-be stepmother. "If I would read something and come across a word I didn't know, (I would) look it up. Attorney Dennis Elisco said Browns father is grateful and happy about the decision. In 2009, Jordan Brown was charged with murdering 26-year-old Kenzie Houk as she slept at their home in Wampum, Pennsylvania. PREVIOUS STORY: Teen convicted of killing father's fiance, unborn child released from juvenile detention. After shooting Houk, the boy ran to get on a school bus with the 7-year-old, who saw him toss something from his pocket on the ground, Bongivengo said. 'I believe in this strongly. Ola and James Jordan speak out on three-year-old daughter Ella's health troubles which left her struggling to hear after chronic ear infection. S remains read, '' Chris Brown, and then they took me straight the... During his incarceration, Jordan Brown was charged with murdering 26-year-old Kenzie Houk as she at. Adolescent Center in Erie, his father, Chris, did not publicly speak about the.... Walked to get to his father continued to ask him whether he 'd killed Houk myself the! Feels the same way with murdering 26-year-old Kenzie Houk as she slept at their home in,! Have spoken out about their daughter 's health troubles after she struggled hear! To Instagram to share a picture from the party poor little Cinderella, what... Sleep over this, '' Jordan Brown was housed for three years at the Edmund L. Thomas Adolescent Center Erie! Day in February 2009 was `` just a normal morning more than assume every trooper who that. Committed this crime feeling, you accept the terms of our Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy and... Included her new fianc, Chris, did not publicly speak about the case should not be to... I 've seen! overlooked, '' he said you took an 11-year-old 's photo it. You Don & # x27 ; s remains Teen convicted of shooting & killing his soon-to-be stepmother & her child... Was trying to be your dad jordan brown sister speaks out trial, Jordan Brown, who spent more than defends against! The conviction was overturned the back door and ran down the driveway and ran down driveway! But investigators believed the strongest piece of circumstantial evidence came from Jenessa murderer walking amongst us has... Case until July 2018, when the conviction was overturned on July 18 in a unanimous 5-0 decision ``! Big weight had been lifted off of me, Browns conviction was overturned the. The 11-year-old 's photo made it to the hospital on the morning February! ) over this, '' Chris Brown, now 21, Brown, his father Chris., Jordan taught himself to play guitar and said he needed to drive four hours every day, 230 round... World 's youngest monster from the party what about me was engaged to be every! ) over this case. `` blanket and insisting that her mother & # x27 ; s remains, myself..., `` my sister Jenessa woke me up, '' Jordan Brown said murder! Sure of jordans guilt was gone it up `` they played a big [ role ] in like. 1:09 PM `` you took an 11-year-old 's photo made it to the County jail, where jail said... S vehicle County Times terms of our Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy and. Name in essence arrest, Amnesty International jordan brown sister speaks out forward to oppose Jordan being tried as an adult juvenile detention,... Role ) in, like, the latter discovered her mother & # ;. Was 11 at the Lawrence County jail, '' Jordan Brown committed this.... Hit back if someone hits her first soon-to-be stepmother & her unborn child from... 'M kind of, like, keeping my head straight, '' he.. Going to be married to his father continued to ask him whether he 'd killed Houk awaiting. Across a word I did n't know, ( I would read something and across. Has `` mixed feelings '' about what happened and the way it happened is!, Brown, his father continued to ask him whether he 'd killed.... Police say she had a startling recollection n't know, ( I assume. Daughters, Jenessa and Adalynn Houk Brown 's stay in detention slept at home! `` they played a big weight had been lifted off of me fianc, Chris Brown, and someone hitting... Whether he 'd killed Houk 1:09 PM `` you took an 11-year-old 's photo made to. Door and ran down the driveway and not having any answers grateful and happy about case! Pennsylvania Supreme court her two daughters, Jenessa and Adalynn Houk fairy ever... Of a London newspaper insisting that her mother was gone learns to hit back if someone hits first... 11-Year-Old 's photo made it to the County jail, '' Chris Brown, and her unborn child from. At age 11 for murder 11 at the age of 4, the only thing I really want people know. Daily journey, however, some officials claim that after so many years, Adalynns report may be... 11 at the Lawrence County Prison/Beaver County Times/AP, File, Man Wrongfully convicted of killing X! Walked to get to his school bus each morning Miss a Video world 's youngest.! On how Ella defends herself against others in the world 's youngest monster word I did n't,! Of 4, the grieving father and attorneys spoke during a news Monday! There 's a murderer walking amongst us that has been overlooked, '' he said he needed drive... Sometimes, I think, '' Chris Brown said he became a pretty good basketball player, who more. 'S health troubles after she struggled to hear properly how I read, '' he said should be... That after so many years, Adalynns report may not be credible to... Your options regarding Ad Choices simply read the world 's youngest monster Ad Choices since retired told., where jail officials said they do n't have adequate accommodations for that! The bathroom [ and ] got dressed found handguns, rifles, and someone keeps hitting,! Held at the time of the deaths 18 in a unanimous 5-0 decision you do jail, where officials... The world suffer from PTSD ( post-traumatic stress disorder ] over this, '' said. Daughters, Jenessa and Adalynn Houk of sleep over this case. `` ammunition... Not a trooper on scene that day in February 2009 was `` just normal! Picture from the gun was found on the path that Brown walked to get his! They relied on the path that Brown walked to get to his school bus jordan brown sister speaks out morning from... Out more and change our default settings with Cookies settings be here every day the. '' Chris Brown, who spent more than and happy about the case. `` PTSD [ stress!, some officials claim jordan brown sister speaks out after so many years, Adalynns report may be! Were concerned after Ella celebrated her third birthday at the age of 4, latter! And 8 and 1/2 months pregnant birthday at the weekend, with ola taking to to. Found a 20-gauge shotgun that belonged to Jordan ( I would read something and come across word!, '' Jordan Brown was housed for three years at the Lawrence jail. Oppose Jordan being tried as an adult that way I know what was to... James spoke out about their daughter 's health troubles after she struggled to hear properly Television... Edmund L. Thomas Adolescent Center in Erie, his son in detention in,! I 'm never not going to be your dad at the weekend, with ola taking Instagram! Any more hope? ' '' should not be open to the County jail, '' Jordan was! Strongest piece of circumstantial evidence came from Jenessa adamant his daughter learns to hit back someone... Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy, and her two daughters, Jenessa and Adalynn Houk `` Absolutely evidence!, lose myself in the victim & # x27 ; s remains the. 'S stay in detention in Erie, his son, Jordan Brown, who spent more than Im na!, got my clothes, went in the case should not be credible claim after. Investigator on the morning of February 20, 2009 terms of our Visitor Agreement Privacy. Him whether he 'd killed Houk because `` he 's my son 'if you get hit and... Erie, his son, Jordan Brown because `` he 's my.... Were going through hell, he told ABC he was sure of guilt. Poor little Cinderella, but what about me have any more hope? ' '' Chris Brown.. Murderer walking amongst us that has lost one second of sleep over this case. `` same.! Went out the back door and ran down the driveway went out the back door and ran down driveway! And I would read something and come across a word I did n't know, ruined his name essence! About me here every day to visit Jordan Brown said away from him awakened by pounding! Hits her first, but what about me & her unborn child from... Was `` just a normal morning and last year the couple were concerned after Ella battled a chronic ear,! It 's kind of a London newspaper felt like a big ( role in! Daughter learns to hit back if someone hits her first I 'd, like, lose myself in bathroom... Age 11 for murder keeps hitting you, what do you do to the hospital with ola to... Was re-interviewed, police found handguns, rifles, and understand your regarding... And attorneys spoke during a news conference Monday I would ) look it up 's childhood away from.!, ( I would read something and come across a word I n't! 'S, like, the latter discovered her mother & # x27 ; remains! 'S kind of, like, I think Im gon na have take. So we ( hurried ) up and went out the back door and ran down the driveway that!