Routine includes daily walks, texting and emailing friends, and checking in with TWW. A thoughtful and thought-provoking comment. Suicides have also happened, but they have not yet been reported on any site. Feel like I’m letting the blog down) but I think two ways of referencing life are playing out here. This is a major breach of ethics that the APA would not have taken lightly. Period. As a former employee of Cedarville, I do not believe that the actions of those in leadership in this case represented the values and character of the faculty and staff that I had the opportunity to work with. ishy: And I’ve told y’all before about the professor I had who boasted about how his young daughter would have an arranged marriage, because she could only marry someone he chose that was from a “well-known” and “famous” family. But some people said that whenever they went home, their parents reverted them into small children. In the Sunday School curriculum, we have water color illustrations of a Caucasian female, long hair brushed forward, standing behind near-shoulder foliage, in an off-the shoulder top, joyfully looking forward to cleaning, cooking, diaper changing, not to mention attending to any more intimate male needs, all while never “letting herself go”. I do not think they were dismissed, some others chimed in and agreed and it left something for everyone to think about. By the time I got home I was incredibly malnourished, my vitals and labs were awful, and I wasn’t awake more than a few hours a day. The battle between God and Satan is not an equal contest. I’m with Jack on this, as to appropriate combining of eclecticism with primary purpose. I suspect Moore will launch another comeback someday after all this blows over. Prayer Requests We stopped attending church because I reached a point where I came home after services every Sunday and went back to bed sobbing. Also, the husband’s letter spoke of touching in a different place involving the police, but a harmful or offensive touching is considered assault in most hamlets. Furthermore, the EEOC says when “this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual’s employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual’s work performance, or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive work environment,” it qualifies as sexual harassment. My alma mater and its serious problems being discussed here is much, much more important. Think I’ll go fishing …. Ah yes, the Christian “approved” form of gossip. I agree that Pew emphasizes affiliation, but it also has a graphic called “Broad-based declines in share of Americans who say they are Christian.”. Unfortunately, the atmosphere became strained and Kat found herself isolated. The following comment is not aimed at any individual; it is a comment about the meaning and worth of TWW. Theirs. That’s not his fault of course, but she’s an adult who reported an incident. Some are Wartburgers. “There were few conversations or normal, day to day interactions with those who worked in her division. Dee and Deb are earning their crowns with this site, “never mind the bollocks“ (critics) — an old Brit punk rock saying. That seldom works. Rant over. Lea: Honestly it’s kind of gross that her husband needed to get involved at all. We have to, we must, and we will.” was sincere or merely window dressing. – are faced with a tension between two passages of Scripture: “Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together” vs. Yes the whole thing is staged … fake news. There are no guaranteed methods of child rearing, but the punitive taboo approach is overrated. If I hurt your feelings I sincerely apologize. I’ve also held increasingly more demanding jobs over that period and done other things during that time. Your response was exactly what I would have expected. I’m curious about White saying he “owned four karate schools in South Carolina…was the Middleweight World Amateur Sport Karate international champion in 1993…is a member of the World Martial Arts Hall of Fame”: Max, that sounds like the SBC College I went to, in the 70’s. Friend: There’s also no suggestion that young adults, raised in the US, deserve freedom of religion. They post things that are off topic. This meeting was very professional, and did not cause me to question any ulterior motives. Very often, the information presented and subsequent discussions regard issues of abuse, mistreatment, pain, and the search for healing. I have chronic major depression, and I’ve been on medication for it for over two decades. Another grandmother died when a parent of mine was 14 and the remaining grandparent did before I was born also, at what has since become considered a young age. I was counseled by Joy and she was wonderful. …annnnnnnnnnnnd, that’s the opposite of higher education. Evidence aside, the claim is a logical fallacy. Needless to say, I felt safe there that if I ever reported something I would be heard. In the closing, Jesus is rejected, and he tells of destruction of temple Judaism, and national repentance in the Day of the Lord. Samuel Conner: Something serious must have happened to elicit these admissions (regardless of whether the statements are actually sincere, or simply “damage control”). I don’t want to give many details as to protect her and myself, but I felt supported and heard by her. “We’re so bad, we’ve gotta be good.” “We’re so good, we’ve gotta be bad.”, Association of Related Churches and a scuzzy one. The other two colleges in Lynchburg put up their online covid dashboards last month. Today I tweeted about Al Mohler's response to a Religion News Service article called The evangelical unease over contraception link. I suspect it is this This is very interesting. I don’t feel that it is ok to dismiss a group of people sharing their hearts just because you are friends with a person or whatever. They work under the threat of being fired, after all, if they’re perceived as challenging authority (Mach and White are both adamant on that note). The administration decided that 2 days before finals started would be the perfect time for our captains to tell us that our coach was on leave and if we spoke with him or told anyone what was going on he would stop getting paid. Over the summer, he would stop by my office to ask random, non-work questions, and began commenting and asking about my shoes. The ruler of the synagogue is an adversary of Jesus. SNAKE: NOW he tells me! Origin Sin is directly connected to this post specifically, and the arc of history in general. Gotta say…felt the same. Well, yes it does need legs. Most girls there did. The victim in this story has asked to be called Kat, not her real name. I will add that particular RA was male and made the comment that “Women should know their place and wear dresses.” We could wear jeans while not in class, so jeans weren’t all that uncommon. ++++++++++++++++++++. Dee Parsons, The Wartburg Watch 3. If folks think that causes of death are falsified on death certificates in the US, they can simply look at the amazing increases in deaths from all causes since March 28. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: I suspect that the shortage of candidates is self-inflicted. This started him down a bunny trail about how people west of the Mississippi pronounce crayons one way and people East of the Mississippi pronounce it a different way. In other cases or other countries it might be the other way round. As a young woman, she clearly understands the difficulties that women face in the work environment at this university. Max: My thoughts as well when various reports started coming out on Moore. This story is an intense journey with many entitled “professionals” not doing their job, and clearly out of their range of expertise in dealing with real student lives. Friend: like everybody within the sound of his voice may or may not make the 53-man roster cut. Initially he didn’t attend Grace because it wasn’t SBC. Apparently the tests that might be brought in soon, aren’t reliable or informative. However, I know her actual name. Again, it’s negative. 😉. It’s hard to believe that parents don’t anticipate that, when the college search is all about “best fit.”, “Cedarville University Counseling Center has never done anything wrong and that none of the students’ stories are true.”. but it’s especially sick and corrupt at the institutional level. I wonder how much of the decline is that it is simply more socially acceptable now to not attend. “Let me tell you all about this thing you’re not supposed to know! ishy: it just made those students angrier and more likely to distance themselves if they were forced to go to Liberty, but there’s definitely a belief among parents that Christian university will continue to shelter their kids. I am soo, sooo, sooooo tired of all this. –Luke 13:20-21. Cedarville University Cedarville University Cedarville University. a girl would be suspended, and potentially expelled for that.. Headless Unicorn Guy, Jeffrey Chalmers: Am I justified in intuiting that this language suggests that the CU investigation uncovered evidence that there were some CU victims in this case? I don’t know if you’ve looked at the Pew studies, but they show a steady decline to 65% or below: Define what Christian means. yes…. Updated 5-26-2020; 5-27-2020; 6-5-2020 Thomas White has spent most of his adult life being "mentored" by Paige Patterson. Randy Patten, Trustee, Chair of the Presidential Search Committee”. Back to CU and White, we need to ask ourselves “How did Thomas White end up as CU President in the first place?” Well, the good ole boys put him there, you know … Paige Patterson and his buds. When you make the decision that someone needs a crisis evaluation, you have them taken to the hospital via ambulance or police. Conley did have some major advantages. Many women are victimized by it, as Kat was. Not necessarily the same commentors suddenly becoming offended. 1. White should have practiced a bit more. The meal is altered, making it more desirable for consuming, but worthless for offerings to God. It’s legitimate for the vulnerable to be frightened about irrational authority. I don’t believe she ever spoke to anyone about it. (i mean, it’s hard to think of any information on any topic which, once we know it, doesn’t inform the living our lives even in some small way.). My Comment was Deleted That is a human male response to guilt. It sounds like a mere slap on the wrist. Today I would like to add my concern to that of “The Wartburg Watch” author, Dee Parsons. God bless the student here who faced serious incompetence at this institution. Very often, the information presented and subsequent discussions regard issues of abuse, mistreatment, pain, and the search for healing. TREE: Hey, Snake! Btw. Not to mention four years of higher tuition costs to receive an education that doesn’t stack up with that offered at lower-cost secular colleges. But they are not truths in general, such as moralism, but have a specific focus, mysteries that are ancient. !” either….they just don’t use God and / or the Bible and / or Christianity. If not, this is all hearsay. I’m a CU alum and former employee who still lives in the area and briefly attended the same SBC church that Tom Mach and Thomas White attended. Yeah, that’s bold of me. While I am not a psych expert , I do have a background in psych nursing. The abuse was discovered in January 2017, when Moore was a campus pastor at The Village Church in Fort Worth, Texas. It repudiates mainstream psychology and psychiatry as humanistic, fundamentally opposed to Christianity, and radically secular. These can make it easier for a patient to seek counseling, although an in-person visit can be more informative. Yes the deaths are well up and we hope for the workforce to not be decimated and also for bodies to not pile up too suddenly. This happened because a temporary issue at the church brought a tidal wave of old unresolved church-abuse memories into my mind. Keeping those HEATHENS well-fed — 1. Brent Detwiler Janna Chan The Wartburg Watch. This begs the question… what was Tom White’s historic and iconic impact on the martial arts community? I know it’s an old tradition here, but I’ve never been comfortable with it, either, particularly on some of these more serious discussions. Urgent care clinics can sometimes help too. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. If not, this is all hearsay. I called and scheduled an appointment with counseling services during the summer and had my first appointment the first week of classes. IMO, the Dones are perhaps one of the largest growing groups of genuine Christians in America. But if the woman is to blame, God is more so. Thanks. ++++++++++++++. If the victim was your spouse or daughter I believe you would agree that a formal process is obligatory for reconciliation. Membership Covenants In no “Christian” universe is Sweeney’s behavior okay. But don’t have your son or daughter going to a place like CU. She was required to wear certain clothes, no makeup, and a hairstyle that clearly marked her as one of the holy ones. God has infinitely more power. The blog owner was taking accountability for the comments section. The woman, Megan Lively, says Cedarville University President Thomas White participated with Patterson in the alleged cover-up of her rape in April 2003. Yes! Thankfully there are a lot of loopholes we quickly discovered that allowed me to still utilize my support system, but that didn’t fix the message forcing me to sign the NDA sent me. The Cedarville solution is to immerse students, having Bible content in every class and constant religious activities. Imagine the power to decide whether a garment is too revealing, a book or movie too dirty, or a health class curriculum too indecent. There is an SBC-affiliated college near me … many of the kids travel to a nearby city on weekends to party, getting away from the rules and regulations on the Christian campus. Ishy’s stories are very consistent with this subculture. Todd Wilhelm: If you watch his initial apology it appears to me that White is reading off a teleprompter. — Steve Taylor, “Guilty by Association”. Was it all done in secrecy and without accountability and follow-up? ishy: They were told what to wear. One doesn’t get waited on hand and foot, one has to take active responsibility in one’s affairs. and then says something like “we will never ever do that sort of thing again”. I was struggling with severe PTSD, having nightmares and flashbacks every day and did not have a professional to help me. Maybe Cedarville made him such a lucrative offer he couldn’t refuse it? Contrast this with the Puritan influence about the subject in White American culture. And the other thing I’d say to Ken Ham and his followers is “If you’re going to lie to me about the age of the earth, or the consistency of the speed of light, then why should I believe you when you say you know the way to God? Or, how would President White view Driscoll Church? Not so much. elastigirl: i’m even done with “Christian”. As they say, “With friends like these, who needs enemies?”. There was delay in taking reasonable measures five months ago. After 70+ years of attending churches which conducted themselves largely without God, I made my decision. I for one understand the human need for a bit of levity at times with these depressing and serious matters… There’s still a nationwide shortage of tests. It was a nurturing place. Their mental health might improve once they have a tiny bit of adult autonomy. Odd. J R in WV: And Nouthetic counseling won’t get you licensed to practice anywhere, I don’t think. Despite what some of the negative critics of TWW, and other “Watchkeeper blog” say, we regulars CARE about people abused in the name of “Christianity”. It is clear the “heat is on” with respect to leadership at CU. Therefore, students are dismissed because it’s believed they just aren’t reading their Bibles or praying and being “rebellious”. We have to, we must, and we will.” was sincere or merely window dressing. That’s when I saw our conversation change. the more they fuss about it, the more one thinks, gee, what is so special bout women wearing tight jeans? Imagine the same materials mentioning that Eden is a reference to pleasure. I wrote the pastor a letter about my distress at no longer participating and volunteering. Wild Honey: I know of one girl who, after embracing purity culture, told her dad that she wanted her dad to pick out her future husband. “You Americans are just like the Irish! People develop relationships. In the UK the heavy-handed religious types are all out to crush us singles by isolation and we don’t have masks or a mask issue (other than nurses). 😉. “I went to Cedarville fall semester 2013, my first semester was Dr. White’s first semester., “Dr. I wonder if her husband was “Biblically advised” to put wifey back in line and keep her there; this and other blogs have recorded that in other (but still Christian) contexts. I just hope that some standards emerge this semester, so things can be a tiny bit more normal in January. Your experience sounds so similar to mine, though the authority cult we left was not SBC but a version of a “reformed” denomination. He had met with Human Resources prior to sending this letter. Don’t spend your hard-earned bread Sometimes callers do get put on hold, but for me it was worth the wait. Augustine(from memory and I may screw up) stated sin entered the world through a woman’s corrupted soul. The Universe cannot have two Centers.). My guilty pleasure is watching live feeds of kittens on a YouTube channel called TinyKittens HQ:, My other guilty pleasure is watching NHL games, go figure. There are bigger issues out there, folks. If you don’t like my post feel free to ignore it. I know lots of people package deal but I don’t think there’s much mileage in assuming they are in this instance, especially if they’ve no hope of becoming church bosses themselves. … a “Patterson”-worthy job of acting … there’s many more Patterson-boys in lead roles throughout SBC.Scary! Obviously, that was the case here, too. Just make the campus one of having the compassion of Christ. Some parents send problem kids to “Christian” colleges, looking at them as reform schools to straighten their brats out. Meanwhile you make no mention of Jesus’ love and mercy. Max: many in today’s church would respond “Jesus who?” if asked to confess faith in Him under threat (something that is already happening in certain parts of the world). an embarrassing brand. Please do not blame anyone else. Also, where was Dr White during this entire ordeal? justicecollective: Both are working for a professed “Christ-centered” employer. Was it in-person or online? 251 N. Main St. • Cedarville, OH 45314 USA • 1-800-CEDARVILLE (233-2784) • 1-937-766-7700 for the Word of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ Instagram I am sure more stories will be forthcoming. BTW, I’m an alum and former CU employee. In any event, I hope that your own child never needs skills that exceed those found at CU. Sexual harrasment, in relation to Christian institutions, comes up every week. Allow for local differences in disorganisation. Sin, of course, but still…” Some left the church initially and later returned to the church (*raises hand*). Next he immediately quarantene until he has a second negative test…. My mother’s paranoid schizophrenia has been a not-insignificant part of my life, and she’d been sick 50 years before I actually heard her state in words what her experience was. Dr. Marc exhibited classic grooming behavior, and my spidey senses tell me that Kat is not the first woman he has harassed ….or worse. Another 2 days later I found out my therapist was leaving. … simply look at the amazing increases in deaths from all causes …. But I do remember one girl telling me her parents wouldn’t let her own a car or move out on her own until she was 25, and she was afraid they wouldn’t even then. I’m sorry but I can’t give you the exact location of my whereabouts. A regular repertory company/major studio stable of Hypokritoi…. 2) perhaps something about #churchtoo: paving the way for less liability – if a sexual offender who is a ‘celebrity pastor’ can be rehabilitated / restored, then perhaps there is less liability for the SBC (even if only a matter perception). Yep. I don’t see evidence in the listed credentials of dominance of nouthetic or biblical counseling in their training (of course, it is possible that they are required to counsel this way as a matter of university policy); 1 is a graduate of Grace College, but earned her MA at Ashland Seminary, which I don’t think is in the NC/BC mind-hive. While these people contributed to the “color/culture” of the area, to this day the image of these people still bothers me…. I’m sure I wasn’t very clear (my bad), what I meant was I didn’t see much analogy and to be fair to you you did ask “Perhaps”? *  He actually called such past behavior as  *normal* and *typical. College kids text their parents a lot. i know you can do it. 2. In my own personal experience, since the “conservative resurgence”, women only matter when it comes to keeping children out from underfoot and bringing covered dishes to the fellowship meals. I remember one girl told me that her brother, who was only a couple years older, was required to “babysit” her, but basically could do whatever he wanted because he was male. Cedarville University’s Board of Trustees today reinstated Dr. Thomas White as president, despite an investigation’s conclusion that White obscured the nature of a professor’s sexual misconduct and withheld this information from the board.. As a result, two trustees, Pastor Mark Vroegop of College Park Church and Danny Akin, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, … One of my oldest friends is a long time attender at that church and thinks his pastor is standing up for what’s right! 6 inches. I’m pretty confident that people trained in these approaches can be licensed, but in order to do that they would have to demonstrate competence in counseling methods that the state recognizes. Michigan St. 68, Purdue 57. The publisher would find sales a little slow. maybe this thing where the religious straightjacket a person signed up to wear is getting to be a bit much…. This worries me that my wife was not the first woman and may not be the last. It only addresses high tuition, quitting church, and academic preparation for the work force. Breeding Stock. Either way, such a sad, sad statement on CU’s climate. That Way Lies Madness. No idea whether the statistic is valid, but if it is… it suggests that the churches are functioning sort of like an occupying army in the lives of the young, but failing to “win hearts and minds.” Which, if true, is both tragic and paradoxical, Jesus being the transcendently beautiful figure that he is. Likewise, Todd Wilhelm’s article published on The Wartburg Watch shows that trustee Jason Duesing is a close friend of White’s from way back. Todd Wilhelm: This way when the memo is published there will be a manageable amount of individuals to interogate to determine who the leaker is and then take the appropriate action against the individual. Think of what it can do to your “head” when you can “preach it”, and get people to hang on your words?? I ended up spending a week in the hospital and was sexually assaulted by another patient while I was there. Alternate narrative. good point. I thought that was a smart adjustment. So far, it’s off to an inauspicious beginning. Sometimes there is a culture against calling things out…. Trust me, kids in fine mental health were severely traumatized. I only checked Texas and Ohio but it appears Ms May has never been licensed. To sum up, CU has trapped itself into a shortage of counsellors by its own policies. 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