Is there a way to wire the side marker lights on my '68 to blink when I turn the turn signals on? The other circuit does both turn signal and brake lights. A quick and cheap way that works just as good is a tail light wiring converter for trailers. More curious than anythingH. Now if the turn signal lamp is switched ON, the relay driver BC547 would start pulsing in response to the acquired signals from the turn signal source. A marker light can be used as a turn signal, but may not be as bright as the original, depending on the bulb. Marker on after blinker is turned off it fades in to full brightness. 98. Does he mean the side indicator lamps with LEDs? Only with marker lights on at night. I would also like to connect up my rear side markers another 158 bulb to the same circuit. Also the same lamp is also expected to light up when the park lights are ON. Turn on just the marker lights and remove the marker bulb and using a meter determine which wire has 12v. yes that's' possible, reducing the 470uF to some lower value, say to 220uF or 100uF will correct the issue. It works great during the day. I actually got it up to a 1000K resistor for each light. I've done it on several … Lol It took a while to figure out the wiring, and I'll make a cleaner design tomorrow. Cut the positive wire to the marker light. 82 Posts . Would a smaller resistor or capacitor help lessen the fade in time? This circuit receives constant power for brake lights and pulsed power for turn signal. Had I known about your before I could have saved money with your circuit design. I have updated the diagram, please check it out. I tapped into the wiring for the tail lights for the rear and middle turn signals. Only issue I'm seeing is marker light recovery to on. Remove the two screws holding the side marker in place. The project is to create two identical circuits for the car's left and right turn signals. The reason this simple mod works is that the fog and turn signal share a ground. I quickly realized that this will not work because the light bulbs are working with reversing polarity and therefore I will need a more managed solution. Looks like it would work great. FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon. Step 5: Route the wires from the side mirror all the way to the front engine bay and tap the wires to the front turn signal light, the front side marker lights on the fender, or the mirror assembly turn signal (if so equipped). HOWEVER, I have a 91, so … (The diode across the coil could be eliminated if that line was still needed)Thx, for this new design which will use only BJTs and no relay, the BC547 collector will connect solely with the base of the second TIP127 through a 10K resistor. The turn signal on the driver side also has a YEL & WHT/BLK wire. Required fields are marked *. Any thoughts on what to add to the circuit to correct this? One thing that I noticed when I analyzed this circuit is that the side marker lamp will be fashing out of synchronism with the turn signal lamp. yes the initial circuit was designed to operate in the opposite way at night as per the original request, I have updated a new diagram, check if that works as per your specifications. A wire will be run from the front LED Side Markers to the rear LED Side Markers giving them the same functionality. I would have to know what wire goes to what post on each component. by Bob Caruthers Here are the steps: Enhancing Car Turn Signal Lights, Park-Lights and Side-Marker Lights. If it discharges to fast the marker starts turning on before the next blink. There are plug in kits available to convert signal lights to dual elements, but maybe not for the Intruder, but one could be spliced into your harness. :D Giving it enough time to not effect the blinker and an instant on to marker light. The blue circles are the side marker lamps. Blinks as correctly. Automotive LED Driver Circuits – Design Analysis, Car Head Lamp Fader Circuit (Breathing Effect Generator), Understanding Motorcycle Voltage Regulator Wiring, How to Make a Bicycle Horn Circuit with Ringtone, Small Signal Transistor(BJT) and Diode Quick Datasheet. First start off by finding the positive and negative wires for both the turn signal and marker light. I love they way they work and would like to convert them with my modification to LEDs. The second necessity desires one more lamp which might be placed as a side marker lamp to react to the above side indicator or the turn signals but flash with an opposite switching. Hello, you can possibly try the following idea: Take another TIP127 BJT, connect its emitter with the emitter of the existing TIP127, base with the collector of BC547 through a 10K resistor, and then use separate diodes (1N4007) with the collectors of these two TIP127 such that their anodes go to the respective collectors, and the cathodes join together and connect with the side marker LED's anode, while the cathode of the LED goes to the ground, I hope you understood the connections…. Cut the other wire that is going to the turn signals and run it to a ground connection. The trailers are wired with a "two wire" system. 16 LEDs. I thought I would condense the information down, and eliminate some less effective ways that were shown in the original post. Discussion in '1st Gen. 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One circuit is for marker lights and tail lights. Thank you. On Sale (91) Color. The idea was requested by Mr. Jerry Klein. 0 Reviews. you can try connecting a 1K resistor parallel with the side marker lamp and see if that discharges the cap quickly…. I am also the founder of the website: https://www.homemade-circuits.com/, where I love sharing my innovative circuit ideas and tutorials. oh, that looks awkward and an overkill, anyway if you are satisfied then it's fine…. I am not a brain when it comes to circuitry but I have done some simple tasks with relays and am good with a soldering gun. I'll assemble it tomorrow and give it a try. There is a faint glow of the LED lights. Waterproof trailer light functions as both a side marker light and turn signal.Amber polycarbonate lens. Your email address will not be published. X 17 in. Left LED Fender Side Marker Light Turn Signal Light Lamp Replacement for BMW E46 2001-2005. It would depend on how they are put together and/or how handy you are with mods. I have a project that is slightly related to this one and could use your help. The circuit taps into the blink turn signal line to determine when it is pulsing causing the car's turning light to blink. They look like this: You can get them at places like Napa or here: Some have the tail light wire running through them (4 wire into 3 wire), and some don't (3 wire into 2 wire). Just wondering if someone could tell me how to wire my marker lights to run with my blinker. Ram, no modifications would be required in the circuit, for the LEDs just use 2 LEDs in each string without any resistors. Your email address will not be published. I am currently using a simple wiring  mod that has worked successfully for 20 years. 4.4 out of 5 stars 68. Is there a way to have it turn back on after voltage reaches a certain threshold of approximately 10 volts or higher. There are 2 wires going to the side marker light. Some cars require a diode when you do this to prevent backfeed. I've gotten a ton of extremely useful information from this forum and I am extremely grateful to everyone sharing their knowledge. If you are using a regular bulb, you could have done the floating ground method. This pulsing would alternately break the positive line of the side marker causing it to blink. I have looked through your blogs and have not been able to find the exact solution. Referring to the diagram, the positive line of the existing side marker needs to be cut and then joined across the two shown points of the recommended circuit. For this reason, when the turn signal lights are operated, the daytime running lights function is interrupted momentarily, which, however, will be brought back into operation as soon as the turn signal is switched off. I think this modification will work but I would like to have your opinion. Can you please help me with this circuit design and parts list. With the second relay the capacitor was to discharge enough to release relay. Pull out the side marker and disconnect the bulb socket from the side marker: twist and pull. So I used your circuit but used the TIP127 to control a second relay. During the day, it blinks the LED Side Markers ON.At night, since the LED Side Markers are illuminated the circuit reverses and blinks the LED Side Markers OFF. I'm all about safety! If you have any circuit related query, you may interact through comments, I'll be most happy to help! The advantage of front marker lights is that it identifies you as a motorcycle from the front at night instead of a car with a headlight out. Thanks to @GMcGee for bringing back an old post, then confirming that it could be done EASILY, and without complications. And splice the black wire to the turn signal wire (the part of the black wire that is on the same side of the cut as the marker light connector). They do not blink.The front and rear lights LED bulbs have dual function: two circuits One line controls night / on and a day / off. I assemble the circuit today. When when applying a left turn signal, the left marker extinguishes, the left LED turn signal flashes, goes off; and the alternating marker/turn signal flashing continues until the left turn signal is removed. Since it uses the turn signal input at night, it turns off when the other lights turn on. I had the thought of actually moving the signal to the marker light, but I wasn't sure how to go about it or if it was possible. Yes I believe I actually do follow you on that. Technical Specifications. BUT it's more complex than the simple wire splice method and if you want the sidelights to work in sync all the time, you also have to wire and supply a 12V circuit to both sides - to the relay (and thus) extra lights. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Attach the YELLOW wire to the bulb positive. But was unable to get the instant one and off I was looking for. Step 4: Before installing the mirror into the vehicle, test to make sure the LED does light up properly and show through the mirror lens. Would you please post the "enclosed chart" which Mr. Jerry Klien is referring in his request. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 29. The YEL is the power wire. I have a 1990 automobile which I believe does not have very sophisticated circuitry controlling the direction signals /driving lights and side markers. However during night time, the positive line of the side marker would have no positive supply, in this situation whenever the relay would be activated in response to the turn signal pulse, the TIP127 also being activated (via base 10k resistor) would pass the positive from the turn signal feed to the side marker via the N/O contact of the blinking relay....this would make sure the side markers yet again blink as proposed in the above request. If one goes bad, or it isn't properly grounded, it can affect the corresponding light on the same side. Boat parts are synonyms with big bucks. Please add a couple of 1N4007 diodes in series with the LED positive line and check if that solves the problem…. From +12vdc wire to light then to battery ground. Check for damaged or burned-out bulbs in all turn signals on that side. After changing to an LED compatible flashing unit, everything is working correctly. Since the ground reverses, I can't run LEDs on the front and sides. The circuit will then blink the corresponding front LED Side Marker. The TIP127 in this situation would have no effect on the N/O contact of the relay due to the positive feed at its base from the side marker supply. Disconnect the Negative battery cable. Turn signals on either side of the vehicle can be wired in series, much like the bulbs on a strand of Christmas tree lights. These contain the brake lights, turn signals, reverse lights and parking or marker lights: 1. They will combine the brake wiring and the turn signal wiring so they will work. On the trailer side, use the other side of the 2 pin connector to run to each side marker. Works perfect.Thank You for all your helpJon. Should be ok? On the V-Strom, the left and right turn bulbs each have two wires. Any ideas? I wanted to have my 100W  7 amp fog lights work off a dimmer so that I could tune them in to the exact lighting requirements. Mission completed!! I am planing to use 2 variable potentiometers (20k ohms). Installing the lights along the skirt of the trailer was as easy as anyone could hope for. By moving the signal to the marker light. I will like to have everything flashing at the same time and I am wondering if I can connect the turn signal light bulb at the point 87 of the circuit. At night marker on and when the turn signal flashes, it glows. 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