JavaScript is disabled. You are using an out of date browser. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. When you find one, buy it. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! You must log in or register to reply here. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. Sweden for a dyno tune. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. You must log in or register to reply here. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. It barely sticks now when floored. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. haha, no worries! One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. It was built for the track and drifting. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. What engine can fit into this car? Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! __________________. Said it made around 345hp(?) I did all the swaps and all the work myself. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. Learn how your comment data is processed. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. via Oppositelock. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. Was real nice. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. all that accumulated grease and oil. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. His forum name is SG Motorsports. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. you have a diamond in the rough. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Include wire from ground at ignition coil bracket. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. Bolt starter to transmission later. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? Hi Adriano. Learn how your comment data is processed. Install without transmission. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. Would you recomend doing this swap? Maybe a steering unit from a w210? Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. Learn how your comment data is processed. Connect common ground at intake manifold. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! it isnt a direct swap. Yup, that's John's car. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. 20cm is slightly too long). The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. All bolt-in, no welding required. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. engine alone. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Makes a fantastic daily driver. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Well, I am right with you. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. Is that a street car? VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. Power will be greater with an LS swap. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. Engine Swap Depot. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. And if so is there no way around it? Navigation Menu . It may not display this or other websites correctly. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? Remove with transmission attached. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. 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