One was the white one that we first saw. Need to Know. take care and be safe near the forest! I had a bad feeling about it, so I said "no".Abd we didn't go. Have you had any bad experiences there? There have been times in my life I would have used a gun, if it had been on meand subsequently, might have wound up in jail for a very long time. Dorothy Delilah Scofield. Just take the id to the police station and where you found it. Late 50s, early 60's. The mega city is usually quickyou are shot and you die. While they may harbor a lot of poverty, these shacks and trailers are not likely to be truly in the forest. Urban woodswalker I stated what I wished for! Rainier National Park, 09-28-2013 Kristopher Zitzewitz Gifford Pinchot National Forest, 04-28-2014 Donna Vanzandt Olympic National Forest, 01-12-2021 Christopher Jarman North Cascades National Park, 07-24-1997 Amy Bechtel - Shoshone National Forest, 10-20-2018 Terry Meador Pine Mountain, 06-12-2021 Cian McLaughlin Grand Teton National Park. The people live in towns and cities where there is no crime or rough people and where there are alot of police to protect them from country folk. Hood National Forest 05-13-2015 James Franklin Shook Cape Lookout State Park 06-23-2016 Sanford David Rice Mount Jefferson Wilderness 07-28-2016 Riley Zickel Mount Jefferson Wilderness 08-14-2017 Nikolas James Roche Siuslaw National Forest 08-31-2017 Caleb Josiah Howard Mt. Ghost not sure who you are talking to. Rainier National Park 08-06-1950 Gunnar Peterson Colville National Forest 11-30-1957 Lowell Linn Mt. Baker Wilderness 04-28-2014 Donna Vanzandt Olympic National Forest 06-18-2014 Karen Sykes Mt. I have lived in the forest for many years and have NEVER seen anything that is thought to be a danger out here. Accept that as it is fact. That was interesting. Luve is in denial and probably one of those less desirable creators in the forest that cause other's property to grow legs.Anyway, thanks for posting this, now I know I better carry my gun on me when I visit ONC next time. Your Name or Nickname. Just be very aware of your surroundings. I guess the very fact that the climate is tolerable to be outdoors if you have to year around draws people with no homes. I thought that I was far enough from the cities and their issues to be fairly safe, but safety is only an illusion in these times. The 12-member Cold Case Review Board requested old documents from St. Lucie County, where Schaefer was convicted of the other killings, and discovered the confession. I got a weird vibe as I went into the store. "Stop denying it. I definitely would not go out and walk the trails without my gun. Violence happens in wilderness areas because there is no one around to witness it. People should know that there are many hikers that go through the ONF. Cops are dangerous, often psychos get hired and they stay in their jobs committing crimes against citizens whether good or bad ones left and right, lying all the time, making things up. Famous for its whitewater rapids, Big Shoals Forest is a beautiful place to enjoy hiking, fishing, hunting, and cycling. yes but Not alone in the woods. Then there were no more trucks we could hear and we got up and walked the last two miles without incident. I've been backpacking in the ONF for about 20 years and have had a couple of scrapes with the local party boys but nothing involving personal danger. Allred's Addition to Ocala: Haszelbart Samuel III to Elder Planning Income Concepts LLC, $217,670. to the South just because of the weather. The springs are a lot of fun for swimming and canoeing. My friend had his 20G and I had my 12G with plenty of slugs. If ever it did. During his incarceration, Schaefer told Charles Sizelove, a fellow inmate at Avon Park Correctional Facility, that he took Leichner and Nater by gun and knifepoint at Alexander Springs park and killed them. Hood National Forest, 10-10-2019 Michael Dean Vos Rogue River-Siskiyou National Forest, 06-13-2019 Michael James Sinotte Great Swamp Management Area, 10-06-2019 Daphine Lynn Westbrook Lookout Mountain, 05-22-2014 Michael Hugh Camilletti Monongahela National Forest, 07-17-1995 Ramona Lynn Fey Mt. (which btw are allowed in your vehicle without a conceal carry permit or on your person with conceal permit) and I found it fascinating! In May of last year, a 74-year-old man died in the same national forest where Stambaugh hiked. We'll all be fine! Dogs are not allowed on the beach at swimming areas. Her main complaint is poor internet. A beautiful magical place? The car did not belong to Christy, it belonged to Ashton or his mother (not sure) and was not found in the forest by Wildcat Lake It was found in the driveway of his mothers home. Anything can happen anywhere. True---The ONF is probably an excellent place to commit murder or dump a body. Its doesnt matter if they happen elsewhere in cities, or wherever. My family loves to come to our home for gatherings and family outings. My heart goes out to the victims but its like Most of yal said its dangerous everywhere. You might be interested in this, Schaumburger. It is not necessarily the forest itself as a dangerous area. 2. You must be a moron, to write crap like this.The Forest like any place else in this world has crime, but then if you look into Ocala, well there crime rate is much higher.So whats the difference?Nothing, nada. Hunting by spotlight at night is illegal. Sounds like a nice place to visit but don't wander around outside the touris-y areas. My friend and coworker Daniel Carnahan,missing, truck found there in Jan. 2017 he has never been found.So guess what. Federal National Mortgage Association to Hess Nicholas Patrick, $370,000. An investigator with the State Attorney's Office in St. Lucie County requested the notes for another missing-person's investigation in 1985 but never forwarded them to Lake County. It's wilderness. We can surely help you find the best one according to your needs. They wander out into a national forest, into a park. I've had 50 of them show up at Farless Prairie at dusk and pitch tents. They also have the Florida trail that cuts almost 100 miles through the forest along with a 100 mile horse trail. Directions. Rainier National Park 06-20-2006 Stephen Mason Olympic National Park 07-05-2005 Gregory R. Brown Alpine Lake Wilderness 06-24-2006 Gilbert Mark Gilman Olympic National Park 07-01-2010 Eric Lewis Mt. . The Ocala National Forest is a land of squatters, fugitives, dopers, and ne'er-do-wells. If thats ok by you then ok. For those who cannot understand the nature of being self sufficient and living with nature, carrying a weapon for safety, being responsible for what you leave behind, leaving no footprint, not desecrating the land, etc., stay in your comfortable box and never venture out.The climate of distrust is incited by the media. I wont do that anywhere. See you seen. This is not the place to learn how to drive through deep sand or mud. There was recently a girl that came up missing after walking away from a house in the Forest. According to her friend, she was last seen alive around 9pm, hours after the two started having car problems. 20% of US soldiers that have been in combat will purposely not fire their weapons, even when their own lives are at stake. Then to top it off you have people of all ages from probably 12 to 80 carrying guns and hunting the poor wildlife out there. Now we have almost 8 billion. Anywhere you go its gunna be like that forest or the city when you meet a random person you instantly put yourself in fight or flight mode. Urban Woodswalker. He had phoned authorities to say he was lost. hes absolutely right, forests and parks are places bad things happen because the chance of them getting caught is slim because there isn't a lot of traffic. Once I came across a naked hiker near Farles Prairie. Locations. However, you may want to take heed of the Florida Forest Service's warning and navigate a little further away from the shoals. Anyone with Information on Lacey Buenfil or Gerald Williams is asked to call the Lake County Sheriffs Office (352) 343-2101, Two Disappearances In Lake County (FL) StillUnsolved, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Praying-for-Lacey/187057048059523, If Your Reading This, Im either Missing Or Dead Clark County Teen Disappears Under MysteriousCircumstances, The Unsolved Murder of Sylena Jo Dalton And The Kidnapping Of Her 2 Month Old Infant StillUnsolved, Missing NY Baby Levon Wameling Last Seen At His Utica Home Six WeeksAgo, Janice Pockett Memorial Bench DedicationCeremony. Most people ive met out here over the years do tend to be convicts or fugitives though. It doesnt matter if murders happen elsewhere toothey are happening right in your own Forest. I would never stay at a drive up campsite, no matter what day of the week. I am an old, white, tax paying, voting lady with a college degree, a job and a home. My observations into what I consider the ONF is that I have run across several tent cities. Feel safe. Here's hoping you have a long and happy life but a lot of us morons will not go back there.Robert A. Others do not feel safe.read of of the other accounts of people that live next to or inside of forests, state parks, etc and one gets a very different picture. Despite the photogenic landscape, the forest has a dark reputation as an ideal place to operate a hidden methamphetamine lab, dump the . I am trying to sell my property that backs up to the forest. You are viewing a new design of the TOTV site. Ocala Post. I hope so. Visited 2 winters ago and made a point to go through, and hike in, the forest. But anniversaries of Nancy Leichner's 1966 disappearance during a scuba-diving excursion at Alexander Springs in the Ocala National Forest rolled by with no news. The point Im trying to make is that if you LOOK for evidence to support the claim that the forest is dangerous, you will be able to find it. If you hang around fish you come up smelling like one. I'll be sure to be a bit more vigilant with my surroundings/personal safety. Hist. While I worked within the justice system, I was never an enforcement officer. The start of Session 3 found the 2004 FNRLI fellows gathering at Camp Ocala, recalling many trips to summer camp gone by. Last week, Assistant State Attorney Ric Ridgway wrote to Adams to say he concurred with the cold-case team's findings. With acres of dense, often unexplored forest, many fear what could be lurking inside. She was last seen with Terry McDowell, a friend of hers who claims they were driving in the Ocala National Forest around 3pm and there car was having problems on Railroad Grade Road, south of Forest Road 14, in Altoona, Florida. They are out there killing people who have families (Mothers, fathers, siblings, children and ect. But other than that My weekend was fun. I saw a man (mid-20s - early 30s) 2 nights ago at the 24 hour Mobil station on route 40 in Silver Springs. . The area is safe and you would not have to take any precautions there than in any other safe area. Lake County, FL: Lacey Marie Buenfil was twenty-five years old when she went missing 12/27/11. Not that what has been said in this blog did not happen---and many a time I look around and wonder just how many bodies are buried out here, and will never be found. It is not just the Ocala National Forest. Cops wont show up for awhile unless their in the area. Woods, forest, lakes these are all places people have used in the the past to do bad things and hide stuff so yes, arm yourself. Then they drove back the way they came. I do a lot of GEOCACHING in the area including the ONF. I pray you and your sick mind will burn in hell, and your soul will rot in eternity; never to reincarnate again on a peaceful planet! People have disappeared never to be seen again. Hog Valley was akin to Mexico. But, growing up here when I was younger we still had the drugs just different drugs. Carry a gun! . Didn't dig too deep, but with the decline of the blogtalks, I think we need to make our own fun for a while here. 4 wheelers are restricted to certain areas. I really want to thank those who publish information regarding the "darker" side of the Ocala National Forest.I'm a member of one of the local paranormal groups, and we have been spending a lot of time in the Forest in an attempt to substantiate some of the claims of hauntings out there.When we have substantiation of some of the less than fortunate events that have occurred out there, it helps us get at least some idea what locations to focus on.Thus far, we have been able to gather some photographic and audio evidence in at least one area. It's changed, but still peaceful. What is truly the forest is not the towns mentioned previously. My dad was born and raised in the Forest and I fished there for years and years and loved it. It is happening in YOUR forest too. I agree with you. The forest has long been my place of reverie and reflection. It is a very beautiful place. However, forensics, and police/ coroners reports often have the data and factual documentation of bodies and murders in forests, natural areas and wilderness. All the people are so defensive and say what a perfect place the Forest is and how people are just paranoid but they always make sure to say they themselves are well armed always when they go to the Forest. It wasn't until Schaefer was convicted in 1973 of torturing and murdering two Fort Lauderdale girls -- 17-year-old Susan Place and 16-year-old Georgia Jessup -- that police paid much attention to him. They shoot the animals just to have something to shoot at and leave the carcass behind for the vultures. I feel that I have lost my place of alone time and peace. And those pretty young girls, yea, daddy taught'em to shoot when they were little, and one of them is fixing to put 2 in your chest. Michele left her father's house at 16611 NE 141 Street in Fort McCoy for the bus stop on the morning of May 7, 1998. I guess I've been lucky as the only strange people I've met were visitors from the cities. In lake worth Florida? I live in the forest near the Putnam County line. All the people are so defensive and say what a perfect place the Forest is and how people are just paranoid but they always make sure to say they themselves are well armed always when they go to the Forest. No questions asked, if you threaten me or try and steal from me, or approach me after you are told to stay away you will be shot, then you will be fed to the gators. Safest place in the world as long as you know what you are doing and you know how to protect yourself. But anniversaries of Nancy Leichner's 1966 disappearance during a scuba-diving excursion at Alexander Springs in the Ocala National Forest rolled by with no news. Perhaps you are in a smaller rural town and have never experienced situations like this, but I assure you these are common occurrences. It also looked as if it had dried blood on it. Jaymez Perry's last known in-person sighting was at the home of a relative in Los Angeles, California on Dec. 29, 2017. . From that moment on, news reports of missing persons have meant recalling the unbearable . Ocala, Florida state forest missing people This was posted on Sas Chron Webpage, so I googled and looks like lots of missing people, strange stuff happening in Florida! Lisa Marie, Some of us work in law enforcement, or in the justice system in a mental health or criminologist capacity. Save for a select few that do not work day to day around LEO's or the criminals the are responsible for catching. Ruby was 5, Cloey was 4 and Haley was just 1 when their mother disappeared two days after Christmas in 2011. . Or domestic violence issues involving guns. Even carrying a gun doesnt make one safe all the time. Its not a cult but a group of many different people and personalitys. He described the rape and torture of women, and said he might have information on the killing of one named Nancy. I carry a gun in the forest because some of the animals are dangerous, from snakes up to humans ,and now I've never met one to cause me trouble. I walk out my back door and I am in the Forest. Hi Connie,If you'll contact me at kmmblog@gmail.com I'd be willing to write a more detailed account of Crhistine's case. The Missing List Folder: FOIA Reading Room. They said you will be fine. The two thirty-something men looked over to us and announced that if we heard gunfire, not to worry, they were going turkey hunting soon. From then on, I figured it wasn't worth going back. I have always been very well armed and if I feel threatened I will kill you. Not in this lifetime! The first time I heard newscasters report on missing campers in the Ocala National Forest, I didn't hear their names, but I nevertheless offered a prayer for them and their families. The killings and body disposals are unfortunate but, in the larger picture, they are rare. Most people who live out here are happy to live out here. So if the forest is dangerous, or any, look to law enforcement as the possible criminal component. he wrote, according to a copy of the 1983 letter. Its also a very dangerous deadly place. However, he hasnt been seen in almost 3-years. Located in the Ocala National Forest, Juniper Springs is 90 minutes north of Orlando, 22 miles due east of Silver Springs on State Road 40. This is false. So you and I can type whatever our pretty little hearts desire! It has definitely gotten out of hand. If I were a murderer in the area, I would look for a big, un-policed, wooded area to dump the body. Yes, I've heard guns going off at night and some hunters wait by small ponds in the forest and use night-vision scopes to hunt. Really? But, there are also just regular folks, movie stars, famous singers, the good, the bad and the ugly. Google murders in the OF, you . However, an acquaintance of mine has also spotted him in that same area, on that bike, and got the same suspicious vibes. I guess we are the only place in the entire world that has crime..Are you a moron? That area between Alexander Springs and Clearwater Lake had numerous areas close to residences and roads. Such as with the DC shooing rampage-at their Naval shipyard, just this week. I have spent decades in the woods hiking alone, as a single female. I have also seen evidence of tents in some local towns on public land and even not far off of Hiway 441 close to Tavares behind some businesses. Of this 128.75 square miles (103.66 percent) is public lands. Ive had a more life threatening encounter driving down Parramore street near downtown Orlando in the broad daylight than hiking the forest at night. She warned me of spiders ahead on the trail and then literally vanished. Even though more police are murdered in small towns than in the Ocala National Forest, I did include that in the count.The forest is beautiful. Susan Leichner-Schonder of Tampa has often grasped a patchwork quilt woven by her late sister, yearning for the day when someone would be brought to justice for her slaying. It is the only park in Florida that actually runs in the black not the red. After getting reacquainted and fueling up at lunch, we gathered with Tom Taylor to discuss and practice communication techniques . At 3:00pm the vehicle became stuck on Railroad Grade Road just south of Forest Road 14. Does that make you feel good? I'm a 4th generation native of the ONF. Leashed dogs are welcome in most areas of the forest. They are destroying the Lord's creations. Adams informed the murdered women's former boyfriends about the cold-case team's findings. I stumbled upon it just recently and I've gone to the beginning and am reading oldest to newest - absolutely riveting!Anyhow, I felt compelled to comment on how odd it is to me that people seem offended by you posting true stories, things that have actually happened in the forest. Doesnt mean I havent experienced any weirdness though. Yes I agree there is crime everywhere in the world and in the United States. Not a place to run out of gas, forget AAA out here. wow, what an angered response to someone reporting facts. If anything, the greater tragedy is all the trash left behind in the forest by careless humans.I must respond to the commenter who stated that, "wild animals are unpredictable". And where you might find your car battery missing or a bullet hole in your car, if left unprotected beside the road. And theres alot of them. 3. Cops here in Vegas actually caused me to become homeless FIVE, TIMES, the first three times they did it it was fully illegal. 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